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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 9, 2020 17:50:19 GMT -8
I do recall the Kings run but I thought the Pens were not so bad midway through? The common thread for all of these is great goalie play. Th only way the sharks can change their fortunes is not in their lineup. I dont know why they dont give the kid playing with the cuda a shot. Nothing to lose now. PIT was 10th out of 15, 6 pts out of PO with only 25 games to go in 2008/09. PIT was 9th out of 15 after 28 games in 2015/16 LAK was 9-10th out 15 after 32 fames in 2011/12
Damn, I dont follow the east nearly as close as I follow the west it seems. So if the Sharks get lights out goal tending they are still in the running. I dont think Dell or Jones have it in them.
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Post by jackalope on Jan 9, 2020 18:00:41 GMT -8
PIT was 10th out of 15, 6 pts out of PO with only 25 games to go in 2008/09. PIT was 9th out of 15 after 28 games in 2015/16 LAK was 9-10th out 15 after 32 fames in 2011/12
Damn, I dont follow the east nearly as close as I follow the west it seems. So if the Sharks get lights out goal tending they are still in the running. I dont think Dell or Jones have it in them. Jones proved it last year, made the adjustment and turned the sharks around. Its just unfortunate that it took the brink of elimination to get that change/spark, especially since they may not get the chance this season to go to the brink of elimination. I just don't understand what gets him to sit farther in the net. With Nabby taking over, you would think adjustments to both Dell and Jones game would have been immediate but Jones last start was a train wreck.
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 9, 2020 19:40:45 GMT -8
Dell in net. They have a chance
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 9, 2020 20:02:02 GMT -8
Slashing on Thornton? GTFO
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 9, 2020 20:40:11 GMT -8
LaBanc lights the lamp
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 9, 2020 20:57:05 GMT -8
Jumbo!
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 9, 2020 20:57:57 GMT -8
Where's CMH?
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jan 9, 2020 21:32:29 GMT -8
Im enjoying this one. Wait, I was enjoying the caps game too. oh fuck
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jan 9, 2020 21:32:52 GMT -8
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jan 9, 2020 21:33:21 GMT -8
That jumbo clapper was sweet
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jan 9, 2020 21:47:12 GMT -8
Boys are Teeing off on elvis tonight. hes gonna be sore
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Post by Marbles on Jan 10, 2020 4:16:32 GMT -8
Outside the most importation goal for this team he has been very successful. I do agree though he should go. The Buffalo Bills were very successful in the 90's. DW has not built a team to take them over the hump, He falls in love with his guys & some questionable draft picks. He's got 2 dmen that play a similar game(Burns & EK65) both are offensive dmen & get caught out of position. He's got 3 Power forwards(Meier,Hertl & Kane) not to much speed, Marleau at 40 years old is still the fastest skater on the team. It's time for a fresh face with new idea's. Heck even Dean "dumbo" Lombardi has won 2 cups. Kane is quick and Meier is decently fast. I think the problems are more in the fact he is missing a top 6 guy and a couple bottom 6 guys. Like, true forwards. Right now people are all playing higher than their ceiling.
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Post by John96 on Jan 10, 2020 7:36:15 GMT -8
The Buffalo Bills were very successful in the 90's. DW has not built a team to take them over the hump, He falls in love with his guys & some questionable draft picks. He's got 2 dmen that play a similar game(Burns & EK65) both are offensive dmen & get caught out of position. He's got 3 Power forwards(Meier,Hertl & Kane) not to much speed, Marleau at 40 years old is still the fastest skater on the team. It's time for a fresh face with new idea's. Heck even Dean "dumbo" Lombardi has won 2 cups. Kane is quick and Meier is decently fast. I think the problems are more in the fact he is missing a top 6 guy and a couple bottom 6 guys. Like, true forwards. Right now people are all playing higher than their ceiling. Everyone’s game has fallen off to some degree (save Goodrow) but there was no replacement for the Pavs/Donskoi/Nyquist trio. Marleau is not that piece at this point but he’s better than what they tried early. Steep decline of JT limiting Labanc and Sorenson’s production is a big one too. Last year’s third line was a threat, this year not at all.
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Post by Marbles on Jan 10, 2020 9:32:53 GMT -8
Can’t ignore this. Even I am shocked at how little attentions the Sharks train wreck of a season is getting. This is a team everyone had in the playoff picture and they are clearly bottom five in the whole league with no signs of improvement on the horizon. If this team was in another market who knows what would happen but the calls for change, big change, would be loud, maybe even deafening. It’s a microcosm but I think it’s worth pointing out; how many times in the DW era has third/fourth line started a game or period or even just a bottom six guy getting a shift with the big boys? I can’t think of the last time and I don’t remember it happening often. Other teams do it all the time. Now effectiveness can be debated but I always found that interesting or some times aggravating. The only top Shark that has lost any ice time that I am aware of is Timo. Timo and Labanc are you so I think the coaches and DW are less worries about ruffling them. And that is part of the issue. They slump and get benched or put on line 4. Kane/Couture/Jumbo have off nights and no reply.
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Post by Marbles on Jan 10, 2020 9:37:33 GMT -8
Kane is quick and Meier is decently fast. I think the problems are more in the fact he is missing a top 6 guy and a couple bottom 6 guys. Like, true forwards. Right now people are all playing higher than their ceiling. Everyone’s game has fallen off to some degree (save Goodrow) but there was no replacement for the Pavs/Donskoi/Nyquist trio. Marleau is not that piece at this point but he’s better than what they tried early. Steep decline of JT limiting Labanc and Sorenson’s production is a big one too. Last year’s third line was a threat, this year not at all. 100% You lose 3 guys that are all top 6 talent (or can fill 3rd line for a threat at depth). You lose all 3 and just sayb- the rookies are ready. Only, literally none of them are ready. I mean, how do you do that and keep your job? You literally took a piece off of your top 3 lines (I know Donky was more like 2 but still - those are 3 fundamental pieces or calibre of players with nothing to replace them). It was fucking dumb. And shows an utter lack of ability to read the situation and talent.
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Post by cjelli on Jan 10, 2020 10:11:27 GMT -8
Everyone’s game has fallen off to some degree (save Goodrow) but there was no replacement for the Pavs/Donskoi/Nyquist trio. Marleau is not that piece at this point but he’s better than what they tried early. Steep decline of JT limiting Labanc and Sorenson’s production is a big one too. Last year’s third line was a threat, this year not at all. 100% You lose 3 guys that are all top 6 talent (or can fill 3rd line for a threat at depth). You lose all 3 and just sayb- the rookies are ready. Only, literally none of them are ready. I mean, how do you do that and keep your job? You literally took a piece off of your top 3 lines (I know Donky was more like 2 but still - those are 3 fundamental pieces or calibre of players with nothing to replace them). It was fucking dumb. And shows an utter lack of ability to read the situation and talent. And then you double down and promote the staff that has been preparing the aforementioned rookies to the main bench.
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 10, 2020 12:43:34 GMT -8
It looks like Dell has moved ahead of Jones
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Post by HOOCH2173 on Jan 10, 2020 13:17:20 GMT -8
It looks like Dell has moved ahead of Jones
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 10, 2020 14:16:11 GMT -8
It looks like Dell has moved ahead of Jones
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Post by redbeard on Jan 10, 2020 18:09:11 GMT -8
I think they're camping quite happily here. If they were in TO or NY getting absolutely torched on a daily basis, they might not be so happy. They're living the dream here. Unless you're a 4th liner, you're going to get a regular shift. There isn't enough accountability in the organization. Starts with Tanboy, maybe even higher. Plenty of the players have deserved plenty of pressbox time. You can't bench them all but you can bench a few at a time. Anybody on the roster, regardless of "status," should be put on popcorn patrol if/when they deserve it. I don't care what name is on the back of the jersey. You slack off, you get benched. That's not the process here. Accountability is only for 4th liners and 'Cuda call-ups. Nobody on this team plays a game like it might be their last. The team needs some "fear" motivation. They're FAR too comfortable. Love for Jumbo surely hasn't been enough motivation. Speaking of Jumbo, if he wants a Cup, maybe it's time to be a REAL fucking leader, step up, and put a stop to this shit! "This is my last rodeo! I'm not going out like this!! I agree, The Ducks benched Getz when he was not playing their system. Other coaches do it too. It is far more effective to do it to a top player than a lower level guy. Burns and Karl have earned a sit down more than once but they are not held accountable and that send the worst possible message. Back in the day when I was coaching kids, I benched my son for breaking a team rule. He was our best defenseman. Some parents complained, "RB Jr's our best D! You can't bench him!" My reply was, "Um.. .yes. Yes I can! And I did!" The message was loud and clear to the rest of the kids. "He benched his own kid!" Kids not only did better at the rink they did better at school and at home. Parents thanked me at the end of the season. A hug isn't always the most effective motivator. Sometimes a kick in the pants provides the needed results. Nobody should be above accountability. Nobody...
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 10, 2020 18:18:54 GMT -8
I agree, The Ducks benched Getz when he was not playing their system. Other coaches do it too. It is far more effective to do it to a top player than a lower level guy. Burns and Karl have earned a sit down more than once but they are not held accountable and that send the worst possible message. Back in the day when I was coaching kids, I benched my son for breaking a team rule. He was our best defenseman. Some parents complained, "RB Jr's our best D! You can't bench him!" My reply was, "Um.. .yes. Yes I can! And I did!" The message was loud and clear to the rest of the kids. "He benched his own kid!" Kids not only did better at the rink they did better at school and at home. Parents thanked me at the end of the season. A hug isn't always the most effective motivator. Sometimes a kick in the pants provides the needed results. Nobody should be above accountability. Nobody... And that's the problem with today's athletes. They have to be hugged instead of being kicked in the pants to get motivated. Babcock might fix that problem but he's a Jonah in the NHL right now
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Post by Marbles on Jan 11, 2020 9:48:31 GMT -8
And i got a tv back!! First game of 2020. Let's do it. Also, alcohol here (booze - not beer) is only sold at government run stores and the taxes are insane. How am I to drown myself in scotch to watch this team?
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Post by cjelli on Jan 11, 2020 10:18:07 GMT -8
And i got a tv back!! First game of 2020. Let's do it. Also, alcohol here (booze - not beer) is only sold at government run stores and the taxes are insane. How am I to drown myself in scotch to watch this team? distill your own
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 11, 2020 10:34:05 GMT -8
And i got a tv back!! First game of 2020. Let's do it. Also, alcohol here (booze - not beer) is only sold at government run stores and the taxes are insane. How am I to drown myself in scotch to watch this team? distill your own Yeah, make your own shine. I heard these stills are available in your nearest forest
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