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Post by John96 on Jan 20, 2020 16:49:36 GMT -8
As much as DW ought to go whoever comes in is probably going to be a worse GM. Playoff failures notwithstanding he’s been one of the best at his position basically his entire tenure. Then what is the alternative? Find a true NHL coach and hope he drives DW in a better direction? We also need to address the scouting/drafting issue in North America. The Euro guys seem to have helped but our NA pipeline is still a wreck. Laviolette, Babcock, Gallant all on the market. Let me be clear I think it’s time for a new direction. Wilson’s had more than enough time to get this right and his latest attempt has blown up in his face. Time for a fresh start with someone new at the helm. But just like Jumbo or a Patty not winning a cup, it doesn’t mean they didn’t have great careers. Wilson is a good-to-great GM. I have zero doubt of that and no one should. If he is fired, he’ll be rehired as soon as he wants to. We all pick at his flaws and shortcomings, his inabilities, and his mistakes. And that is totally okay to do. But that’s because we’re the diehards who follow this team game after game for decades. If we were to do that with every other team and GM I think we would find that Wilson is clearly far from the worse. They all make bad trades, all miss at the draft, and all sign deals that bite them. Even with his mistakes Wilson has had teams make the postseason 13/15 seasons. I don’t think many GMs have or could replicate that success. Obviously ownership and market have a lot to do with that but still, not easily done. Guess the short way of saying it is, it’s time to move on but that’s because Wilson sucks. Things have gone south and he should pay the price for that and it’s time for change but I don’t think a lot of GMs would’ve done anything different and a lot of them aren’t capable of doing it either. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 20, 2020 17:06:04 GMT -8
Good News tonight... The Sharks aren't going to lose..  |
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Post by jackalope on Jan 20, 2020 17:37:35 GMT -8
Then what is the alternative? Find a true NHL coach and hope he drives DW in a better direction? We also need to address the scouting/drafting issue in North America. The Euro guys seem to have helped but our NA pipeline is still a wreck. Laviolette, Babcock, Gallant all on the market. Let me be clear I think it’s time for a new direction. Wilson’s had more than enough time to get this right and his latest attempt has blown up in his face. Time for a fresh start with someone new at the helm. But just like Jumbo or a Patty not winning a cup, it doesn’t mean they didn’t have great careers. Wilson is a good-to-great GM. I have zero doubt of that and no one should. If he is fired, he’ll be rehired as soon as he wants to. We all pick at his flaws and shortcomings, his inabilities, and his mistakes. And that is totally okay to do. But that’s because we’re the diehards who follow this team game after game for decades. If we were to do that with every other team and GM I think we would find that Wilson is clearly far from the worse. They all make bad trades, all miss at the draft, and all sign deals that bite them. Even with his mistakes Wilson has had teams make the postseason 13/15 seasons. I don’t think many GMs have or could replicate that success. Obviously ownership and market have a lot to do with that but still, not easily done. Guess the short way of saying it is, it’s time to move on but that’s because Wilson sucks. Things have gone south and he should pay the price for that and it’s time for change but I don’t think a lot of GMs would’ve done anything different and a lot of them aren’t capable of doing it either. Very well said. I see DW like Nabokov, great player, teammate had a awesome career, but couldn't elevate his game enough in the playoffs to push the sharks to the cup. I think the only problem with firing DW now is who is out there to take his place? Ray Shero- is that even a good option at this point? Who else is available now? (I'm sure Brian Burke is waiting for any teams invitation lmao) As far as coaches go- Does Boogey get replaced? If so I would like to see, even though it would be considered controversial by the #hockeymetoo movement, Marc Crawford get a good look. |
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Post by John96 on Jan 20, 2020 18:27:36 GMT -8
Then what is the alternative? Find a true NHL coach and hope he drives DW in a better direction? We also need to address the scouting/drafting issue in North America. The Euro guys seem to have helped but our NA pipeline is still a wreck. Laviolette, Babcock, Gallant all on the market. Let me be clear I think it’s time for a new direction. Wilson’s had more than enough time to get this right and his latest attempt has blown up in his face. Time for a fresh start with someone new at the helm. But just like Jumbo or a Patty not winning a cup, it doesn’t mean they didn’t have great careers. Wilson is a good-to-great GM. I have zero doubt of that and no one should. If he is fired, he’ll be rehired as soon as he wants to. We all pick at his flaws and shortcomings, his inabilities, and his mistakes. And that is totally okay to do. But that’s because we’re the diehards who follow this team game after game for decades. If we were to do that with every other team and GM I think we would find that Wilson is clearly far from the worse. They all make bad trades, all miss at the draft, and all sign deals that bite them. Even with his mistakes Wilson has had teams make the postseason 13/15 seasons. I don’t think many GMs have or could replicate that success. Obviously ownership and market have a lot to do with that but still, not easily done. Guess the short way of saying it is, it’s time to move on but that’s because Wilson sucks. Things have gone south and he should pay the price for that and it’s time for change but I don’t think a lot of GMs would’ve done anything different and a lot of them aren’t capable of doing it either. *not because Wilson sucks. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 21, 2020 0:33:15 GMT -8
If he is not right don’t play him and let him heal. What is so difficult about that? |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 21, 2020 5:07:10 GMT -8
As much as DW ought to go whoever comes in is probably going to be a worse GM. Playoff failures notwithstanding he’s been one of the best at his position basically his entire tenure. Oh boy...now you’ve done it, might as well throw a match on a can of gas 🔥 |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 21, 2020 5:08:52 GMT -8
If he is not right don’t play him and let him heal. What is so difficult about that? Especially since they aren’t playing for anything at this point. Get him healthy and trade him. He and EK don’t belong on the same team. |
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Post by Marbles on Jan 22, 2020 8:55:43 GMT -8
If he is not right don’t play him and let him heal. What is so difficult about that? Especially since they aren’t playing for anything at this point. Get him healthy and trade him. He and EK don’t belong on the same team. 100% concur. Maybe they can dangle him to Dallas. Rekindle that Joe Pavelski connection and Burns gets to move to his farm. I'd take Young Blood in return. Seguin. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 22, 2020 8:57:58 GMT -8
Good News tonight... The Sharks aren't going to lose.. Yay! |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 22, 2020 17:44:38 GMT -8
Especially since they aren’t playing for anything at this point. Get him healthy and trade him. He and EK don’t belong on the same team. 100% concur. Maybe they can dangle him to Dallas. Rekindle that Joe Pavelski connection and Burns gets to move to his farm. I'd take Young Blood in return. Seguin. I’d rather get a goalie for him |
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 23, 2020 9:41:39 GMT -8
100% concur. Maybe they can dangle him to Dallas. Rekindle that Joe Pavelski connection and Burns gets to move to his farm. I'd take Young Blood in return. Seguin. I’d rather get a goalie for him Burns for Bishop would be great |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 23, 2020 11:47:41 GMT -8
I’d rather get a goalie for him Burns for Bishop would be great Stars have no use for Burns (Klingberg+Heiskanen) and no replacement for Bishop.
The Isles, on the other hand, have no true offensive D, and a goalie to spare. Burns for Greiss... You may get Nick Leddy or Josh Bailey, too. The Flyers may give Elliott and JVR.
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 23, 2020 13:45:26 GMT -8
Burns for Bishop would be great Stars have no use for Burns (Klingberg+Heiskanen) and no replacement for Bishop.
The Isles, on the other hand, have no true offensive D, and a goalie to spare. Burns for Greiss... You may get Nick Leddy or Josh Bailey, too. The Flyers may give Elliott and JVR.
I’d be good with Greiss or Elliott. I also think the Sharks need to think about improving draft position and/or getting additional draft picks. There are several holes to fill, more than a couple of trades can fix. IMO the draft needs to be part of the solution also. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 23, 2020 15:33:52 GMT -8
Didn't we already have Greiss, Stalock ?
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 23, 2020 16:26:38 GMT -8
Didn't we already have Greiss, Stalock ? You mean wash, rinse repeat? Yeah they were both drafted by the Sharks at one time but Dougie Wilson didn't think they could cut it. Well, Stalock was a disaster but Greiss was another goalie let go by the Sharks for no reason |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 23, 2020 16:35:29 GMT -8
Didn't we already have Greiss, Stalock ? You mean wash, rinse repeat? Yeah they were both drafted by the Sharks at one time but Dougie Wilson didn't think they could cut it. Well, Stalock was a disaster but Greiss was another goalie let go by the Sharks for no reason Bring back the sloth? |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 23, 2020 16:40:07 GMT -8
Didn't we already have Greiss, Stalock ? You mean wash, rinse repeat? Yeah they were both drafted by the Sharks at one time but Dougie Wilson didn't think they could cut it. Well, Stalock was a disaster but Greiss was another goalie let go by the Sharks for no reason Isn't Stalock doing better in Edmonton than Jones here? |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 23, 2020 16:41:07 GMT -8
You mean wash, rinse repeat? Yeah they were both drafted by the Sharks at one time but Dougie Wilson didn't think they could cut it. Well, Stalock was a disaster but Greiss was another goalie let go by the Sharks for no reason Isn't Stalock doing better in Edmonton than Jones here? Stalock isn't doing in Edmonton. |
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Post by jackalope on Jan 23, 2020 18:16:17 GMT -8
You mean wash, rinse repeat? Yeah they were both drafted by the Sharks at one time but Dougie Wilson didn't think they could cut it. Well, Stalock was a disaster but Greiss was another goalie let go by the Sharks for no reason Bring back the sloth? Lmao.... Is that guy still on a NHL roster this season buried somewhere? Wasn't he "on" the Habs as recent as last season? |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 23, 2020 18:30:48 GMT -8
Lmao.... Is that guy still on a NHL roster this season buried somewhere? Wasn't he "on" the Habs as recent as last season? He's with Jokerit in the KHL. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 23, 2020 18:55:12 GMT -8
Isn't Stalock doing better in Edmonton than Jones here? Stalock isn't doing in Edmonton. Minnesota |
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 23, 2020 19:55:32 GMT -8
Stalock isn't doing in Edmonton. Minnesota Yes he plays in Minnysoda |
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