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Post by Fugazi on Oct 9, 2020 19:23:28 GMT -8
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Post by John96 on Oct 10, 2020 5:31:49 GMT -8
I did too. Let’s hope it didn’t come from his playing for another contract, possibly his NHL career. |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 10:17:55 GMT -8
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Post by sjsharks59 on Oct 10, 2020 14:58:23 GMT -8
LaBlanc gets a 4 year deal from uncle Dougie
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Post by likeomgitsjason on Oct 10, 2020 15:28:31 GMT -8
LaBlanc gets a 4 year deal from uncle Dougie 4 years at 4.725 ea is higher than I was hoping for. |
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Post by John96 on Oct 10, 2020 15:56:18 GMT -8
LaBlanc gets a 4 year deal from uncle Dougie Elliotte Friedman made it sound like that was a handshake deal out of Labanc’s favour to DW last offseason. It’s more than he should get after a season like his but more than what he should’ve got then. |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 15:59:20 GMT -8
Oy Vey
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 16:00:27 GMT -8
He'll Be a Kracken in two years |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 16:02:54 GMT -8
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Post by jackalope on Oct 10, 2020 16:19:46 GMT -8
He'll Be a Kracken in two years I agree 100%... Unless EK65 is a complete dud this season, then I would offload that contract in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 16:46:35 GMT -8
From Cap Friendly Arbitration Tracker: We are tracking arbitration requests, hearing dates, and verdicts once again this year 26 players opted for arbitration. The 2nd club-requested deadline is tomorrow at 5PM ET  |
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Post by John96 on Oct 10, 2020 16:52:47 GMT -8
Sounds like Patty’s back; 1 year 1M.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 17:08:29 GMT -8
Sounds like Patty’s back; 1 year 1M. That's cheap and he can still skate. Allegedly |
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Post by jackalope on Oct 10, 2020 17:11:47 GMT -8
Sounds like Patty’s back; 1 year 1M. Honestly I'm not even mad. Patty was one of the few bright spots from last season. If him and Jumbo sign for $Mil or less, that would be a very effective 3rd line with some versatility to move up in case of injury. Also leaves a little change for the cap. I see Matt Martin is UFA would he be someone worth bringing in for a 4th line? |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 17:50:44 GMT -8
Former Shark many moons ago
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Post by coachjules on Oct 10, 2020 17:53:13 GMT -8
Sounds like Patty’s back; 1 year 1M. That's cheap and he can still skate. Allegedly Well yes, in a straight line, like always. No move, no hands, average shot at best. And for all his ice time over 3+ decades of playing, amazingly little creative thinking in his game. SJ doing him a favor obviously but he can afford to retire. His kids must be well along in youth hockey now. He should be a peewees coach. |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 17:55:40 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 10, 2020 17:57:33 GMT -8
That's cheap and he can still skate. Allegedly Well yes, in a straight line, like always. No move, no hands, average shot at best. And for all his ice time over 3+ decades of playing, amazingly little creative thinking in his game. SJ doing him a favor obviously but he can afford to retire. His kids must be well along in youth hockey now. He should be a peewees coach. Some players just aren't meant to Coach. Wayne Gtrezky is better off going to the arena and glad handing everyone eh |
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Post by jackalope on Oct 10, 2020 18:09:01 GMT -8
That's cheap and he can still skate. Allegedly Well yes, in a straight line, like always. No move, no hands, average shot at best. And for all his ice time over 3+ decades of playing, amazingly little creative thinking in his game. SJ doing him a favor obviously but he can afford to retire. His kids must be well along in youth hockey now. He should be a peewees coach. He sure does have a good amount of points (reg season and playoffs) for someone who can only skate forward and an average shot. |
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Post by sharkhaywood on Oct 10, 2020 18:16:17 GMT -8
Well yes, in a straight line, like always. No move, no hands, average shot at best. And for all his ice time over 3+ decades of playing, amazingly little creative thinking in his game. SJ doing him a favor obviously but he can afford to retire. His kids must be well along in youth hockey now. He should be a peewees coach. He sure does have a good amount of points (reg season and playoffs) for someone who can only skate forward and an average shot. Apparently the only 500 career goal guy with an average at best shot. |
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Post by d5shark on Oct 10, 2020 19:41:23 GMT -8
Former Shark many moons ago Traitor |
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Post by coachjules on Oct 11, 2020 8:29:09 GMT -8
He sure does have a good amount of points (reg season and playoffs) for someone who can only skate forward and an average shot. Apparently the only 500 career goal guy with an average at best shot. Well there are 47 guys in the NHL with 500 goals or more. Only six of them have a negative +/- The average on that list is +122. The median is +74. But, hey, two of them are even worse than Marleaus's -18. He certaainly did steadily rack up his personal stats over 1723 games, 30,266 minutes on the ice. But it doesn't seem to matter to his teams whether he was on the ice or not. |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 11, 2020 8:38:19 GMT -8
Apparently the only 500 career goal guy with an average at best shot. Well there are 47 guys in the NHL with 500 goals or more. Only six of them have a negative +/- The average on that list is +122. The median is +74. But, hey, two of them are even worse than Marleaus's -18. He certaainly did steadily rack up his personal stats over 1723 games, 30,266 minutes on the ice. But it doesn't seem to matter to his teams whether he was on the ice or not. LMAO, you win |
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 11, 2020 8:38:33 GMT -8
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Post by LordNelson on Oct 11, 2020 8:50:31 GMT -8
Sounds like Patty’s back; 1 year 1M. Yea Sharks are a polite, loyal franchise with polite players. Nothing dirty to see in San Jose.. we’ll get back Into the postseason someday politely and without fisticuffs.. |
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Post by mk391419 on Oct 11, 2020 9:57:04 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Oct 11, 2020 11:14:01 GMT -8
That's cheap and he can still skate. Allegedly Well yes, in a straight line, like always. No move, no hands, average shot at best. And for all his ice time over 3+ decades of playing, amazingly little creative thinking in his game. SJ doing him a favor obviously but he can afford to retire. His kids must be well along in youth hockey now. He should be a peewees coach. He's chasing the record. He'll retire after he got it. |
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Post by jackalope on Oct 11, 2020 11:56:48 GMT -8
Apparently the only 500 career goal guy with an average at best shot. Well there are 47 guys in the NHL with 500 goals or more. Only six of them have a negative +/- The average on that list is +122. The median is +74. But, hey, two of them are even worse than Marleaus's -18. He certaainly did steadily rack up his personal stats over 1723 games, 30,266 minutes on the ice. But it doesn't seem to matter to his teams whether he was on the ice or not. So unless you have a high +/- that means you didn't have any effect on the ice? Then none of these players had any effect on their teams either... Player
Position
Games
Goals
Assists
Points
+/-Ron Francis L C 1,731 549 1,249 1,798 -18 Mark Recchi L R 1,652 577 956 1,533 0 Dale Hawerchuk L C 1,188 518 891 1,409 -98 Johnny Bucyk L L 1,540 556 813 1,369 -7 Peter Stastny L C 977 450 789 1,239 -15 Phil Housley L D 1,495 338 894 1,232 -53 Bernie Nicholls R C 1,127 475 734 1,209 -39 Dino Ciccarelli R R 1,232 608 592 1,200 -4 Rod Brind'Amour L C 1,484 452 732 1,184 -39 Bernie Federko L C 1,000 369 761 1,130 -131 Ray Whitney R L 1,330 385 679 1,064 -79 Pat Verbeek R R 1,424 522 540 1,062 -46 Bobby Smith L C 1,077 357 679 1,036 -8 Doug Weight L C 1,238 278 755 1,033 -58 Alex Kovalev L R 1,316 430 599 1,029 -31 Brian Bellows R L 1,188 485 537 1,022 -120 Eric Staal L C 1,240 436 585 1,021 -47 Pat LaFontaine R C 865 468 545 1,013 -6 Shane Doan R R 1,540 402 570 972 -54 Vincent Lecavalier L C 1,212 421 528 949 -140 Owen Nolan R R 1,200 422 463 885 -40 |
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 11, 2020 13:03:31 GMT -8
So it seems Patty returns is Jumbo next?
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Post by coachjules on Oct 11, 2020 13:10:12 GMT -8
Well there are 47 guys in the NHL with 500 goals or more. Only six of them have a negative +/- The average on that list is +122. The median is +74. But, hey, two of them are even worse than Marleaus's -18. He certaainly did steadily rack up his personal stats over 1723 games, 30,266 minutes on the ice. But it doesn't seem to matter to his teams whether he was on the ice or not. So unless you have a high +/- that means you didn't have any effect on the ice? Then none of these players had any effect on their teams either... Player
Position
Games
Goals
Assists
Points
+/-Ron Francis L C 1,731 549 1,249 1,798 -18 Mark Recchi L R 1,652 577 956 1,533 0 Dale Hawerchuk L C 1,188 518 891 1,409 -98 Johnny Bucyk L L 1,540 556 813 1,369 -7 Peter Stastny L C 977 450 789 1,239 -15 Phil Housley L D 1,495 338 894 1,232 -53 Bernie Nicholls R C 1,127 475 734 1,209 -39 Dino Ciccarelli R R 1,232 608 592 1,200 -4 Rod Brind'Amour L C 1,484 452 732 1,184 -39 Bernie Federko L C 1,000 369 761 1,130 -131 Ray Whitney R L 1,330 385 679 1,064 -79 Pat Verbeek R R 1,424 522 540 1,062 -46 Bobby Smith L C 1,077 357 679 1,036 -8 Doug Weight L C 1,238 278 755 1,033 -58 Alex Kovalev L R 1,316 430 599 1,029 -31 Brian Bellows R L 1,188 485 537 1,022 -120 Eric Staal L C 1,240 436 585 1,021 -47 Pat LaFontaine R C 865 468 545 1,013 -6 Shane Doan R R 1,540 402 570 972 -54 Vincent Lecavalier L C 1,212 421 528 949 -140 Owen Nolan R R 1,200 422 463 885 -40 So you are making my point for me? If your team gives up more goals than it scores when you are on the ice, you are not improving its fortunes are you? Of course this needs to be normalized to team performance. Doan, e.g., is an unusual case in that he was the most outstanding player on really bad teams his whole career. Probably some of those other guys too have +/- that was consistently at or above the median for their team every year. Marleau, on the other hand, was way down the +/- list on Sharks teams that were near the top of the league in team net goals for almost all the years he was there. |
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