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Post by HOOCH2173 on Apr 17, 2019 7:09:43 GMT -8
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 7:21:24 GMT -8
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 7:26:08 GMT -8
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Post by LordNelson on Apr 17, 2019 7:29:58 GMT -8
Kane is one of the first guys slouching when all those early goals go in. His game comes with a big mental component. Hertl and Couture didn't facepunch reaves. You are so off on this one. What?? Honest observation that Reaves has been earning his playoff paycheck (based on roles) than Kane or ANY other Shark. Kane has been unfocused and leads the playoffs in Penalty minutes. Reaves has many sharks pissing their pants and not playing hockey. Kane took some terrible penalties in game 3 that cost. He’s not having a good playoff and got owned by Fleury on his only breakaway. Stone, Patch and Stastny are 1-2-3 in current playoff scoring. Sharks are getting owned and Gallant is beating DeBoer at every facet of the game. But other than that, Kane has looked macho and cool chasing Reaves all over the ice in the first round.
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 7:32:52 GMT -8
I thought they were going to win this one for Jumbo At least this one was a team effort so we have that going for us.
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 7:33:36 GMT -8
Did Pavs even get a SOG?
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Post by sjsharks59 on Apr 17, 2019 8:07:14 GMT -8
DeBoer comments, You can't blame this game on the goalie's, you have to score to win, Hey Deboer No $hit Sherlock, But when your Goalie gives up a goal on the first shot of the game Then your team is chasing the game & with your swiss cheese defense it leads to more easy chances for Vegas. Plus your team is Fragile between the ears
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 8:44:33 GMT -8
What a fucken shit show that was
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 8:51:52 GMT -8
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Post by HOOCH2173 on Apr 17, 2019 8:57:13 GMT -8
Apparently that was fake news by the court jester
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Post by sharkhaywood on Apr 17, 2019 9:20:24 GMT -8
So, in the off season, is it the responsibility of the athlete or the team to get the technical/technique remedial tutoring, and the sports psychologist, that Jones desperately needs? Probably responsibility of goalie coach Johan Hedberg, but he’ll be fired within a week after the season ends. Or should. If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs.
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Post by d5shark on Apr 17, 2019 9:21:50 GMT -8
Probably responsibility of goalie coach Johan Hedberg, but he’ll be fired within a week after the season ends. Or should. If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs. Can we bring Jay Woodcroft back?
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Post by cjelli on Apr 17, 2019 9:29:56 GMT -8
There is a systemic problems with contracts that are actually payments for work done, when they should be payments for the work expected. The GMs need to get out of the mindset "This player did well, we need to reward him with a contract", instead they should try to figure out the expectation for the contract term and act accordingly. That's why both 1-y Jumbo contracts were wrong, that's why Jones contract _was_ reasonable, and that's why the team should not sign Erik Karlsson and part with Joe Pavelski.
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Post by sharkhaywood on Apr 17, 2019 9:30:23 GMT -8
If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs. Can we bring Jay Woodcroft back? He has had a great year behind the bench in Bakersfield. You have to think he will end up with T-Mac in L.A. again.
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 9:48:09 GMT -8
Hasso fix this!
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Post by wallyshark on Apr 17, 2019 10:12:02 GMT -8
Probably responsibility of goalie coach Johan Hedberg, but he’ll be fired within a week after the season ends. Or should. If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs. This team needs a complete rebuild. It's needed to be done for many years. Doug got lucky in 15-16 when we technically should have been doing a complete rebuild then. That just planted a seed of doubt and Doug thought he can rebuild on the fly or as he says "refresh" every few years. The problem is its always the same core. The Teams that the Sharks put on the ice 20 Years ago were much more fun to watch and didn't have nearly the talent this team is supposed to have, but had more heart and worked harder.
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 10:13:51 GMT -8
If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs. Can we bring Jay Woodcroft back?
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Post by d5shark on Apr 17, 2019 10:21:44 GMT -8
If the head coach isn't fired then at a minimum the assistants need to be shown the door. Hopefully they can bring Boughner back to work with the D and throw Spott into the bottom of the bay because he is a walking clusterfuck as a power play coach. Hasso will keep Tanman around and Tanman is going to throw a armored car worth of money at Karlsson to try and keep him because if he doesn't he gave up 4 players and prospects for nothing. Jones' contract is a boat anchor around this team's neck. 5 more years and $28 million still to pay him. His numbers this playoffs are far worse than even Niemi put up in the playoffs. This team needs a complete rebuild. It's needed to be done for many years. Doug got lucky in 15-16 when we technically should have been doing a complete rebuild then. That just planted a seed of doubt and Doug thought he can rebuild on the fly or as he says "refresh" every few years. The problem is its always the same core. The Teams that the Sharks put on the ice 20 Years ago were much more fun to watch and didn't have nearly the talent this team is supposed to have, but had more heart and worked harder. This team finished second in the West. I'm not sure the situation is nearly as dire as described, but they don't have the horses to go all the way.
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Post by oaklandshark on Apr 17, 2019 10:41:04 GMT -8
This team needs a complete rebuild. It's needed to be done for many years. Doug got lucky in 15-16 when we technically should have been doing a complete rebuild then. That just planted a seed of doubt and Doug thought he can rebuild on the fly or as he says "refresh" every few years. The problem is its always the same core. The Teams that the Sharks put on the ice 20 Years ago were much more fun to watch and didn't have nearly the talent this team is supposed to have, but had more heart and worked harder. This team finished second in the West. I'm not sure the situation is nearly as dire as described, but they don't have the horses to go all the way. Oh its dire...worse than that..we need to get younger and nastier, fix the defense and I don't know what to say about jones how much of a cap hit would it be just to eat his contract?
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 11:31:37 GMT -8
Ouch
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Post by oaklandshark on Apr 17, 2019 11:36:16 GMT -8
brian burke said that?......sweet christ
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 11:49:11 GMT -8
This team needs a complete rebuild. It's needed to be done for many years. Doug got lucky in 15-16 when we technically should have been doing a complete rebuild then. That just planted a seed of doubt and Doug thought he can rebuild on the fly or as he says "refresh" every few years. The problem is its always the same core. The Teams that the Sharks put on the ice 20 Years ago were much more fun to watch and didn't have nearly the talent this team is supposed to have, but had more heart and worked harder. This team finished second in the West. I'm not sure the situation is nearly as dire as described, but they don't have the horses to go all the way. This is fair. They are good enough to get to the postseason and likely will again next year. They are zero threat for a deep run though. The move for EK65 was bold and I applaud it. No way to foresee his injury. Jones has been good and I sure did not see this coming as the season began.
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 11:50:24 GMT -8
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Post by sharkhaywood on Apr 17, 2019 11:58:27 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Apr 17, 2019 11:59:41 GMT -8
This team finished second in the West. I'm not sure the situation is nearly as dire as described, but they don't have the horses to go all the way. This is fair. They are good enough to get to the postseason and likely will again next year. They are zero threat for a deep run though. The move for EK65 was bold and I applaud it. No way to foresee his injury. Jones has been good and I sure did not see this coming as the season began. The problem with Jones was clear at the trade deadline, and so was EK65's injury. The deadline exists to address deficiencies on the roster, and adding Gustav Nyquist and Michael Haley was not a step in the right direction. Adding Marcus Foligno, Cedric Paquette, or Blake Coleman as well as adding an experienced 7d would likely be more useful. This is on PDB. The GM addresses the requests by the coach.
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Post by cjelli on Apr 17, 2019 12:00:25 GMT -8
The mice cried, pricked, but continued to nibble at the cactus.
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Post by HOOCH2173 on Apr 17, 2019 12:05:12 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 12:08:54 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 17, 2019 12:10:41 GMT -8
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 17, 2019 12:19:40 GMT -8
This is fair. They are good enough to get to the postseason and likely will again next year. They are zero threat for a deep run though. The move for EK65 was bold and I applaud it. No way to foresee his injury. Jones has been good and I sure did not see this coming as the season began. The problem with Jones was clear at the trade deadline, and so was EK65's injury. The deadline exists to address deficiencies on the roster, and adding Gustav Nyquist and Michael Haley was not a step in the right direction. Adding Marcus Foligno, Cedric Paquette, or Blake Coleman as well as adding an experienced 7d would likely be more useful. This is on PDB. The GM addresses the requests by the coach.
This is true but maybe nothing could be done about about EK65 but Jones could have been demoted. With his contract they were perhaps careful to not make his value go down even more. Well that backfired. And now he starts game five? Pete must really be blaming the team defense not any goalie. To me I would start Dell and sit EK65. Maybe he start Jones in a show of confidence for next season because I see no other reason.
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