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Post by sharkhaywood on Apr 18, 2019 14:22:28 GMT -8
lol..redbeard..love it But its time to rebuild..not retool kane, meier, coture, hertl,goodrow (he has heart)….untouchable bring pavs/JUMBO back 1-2 yr deal...EVERYONE ELSE GTFO Jumbo? No, thanks. What exactly has DW throw 13 millions at in the last two years? Pavs? No, thanks. Excellent season, but his decline is imminent, and he's been there with each and every collapse of the team in the postseason, including captaining the last three ones (and one without the collapse).
Goodrow is not worth mentioning. His salary and his impact are not particularly significant.
The Sharks have less that one draft worth of picks over the next two years, seven in total, no 1, 2 or 4 coming summer and no 1 in 2020, so I have no idea where the rebuild tools can be obtained. The Sharks have two roster players under 25 and none under 22 in the league that has begun to appreciate younger age, so the trade baits aren't particularly attractive as well, and the M-NTCs aren't making it any easier.
DW bet the farm and lost and must go.
Once Jumbo got to the one year post knee surgery he has put up very respectable numbers for a third line center. As long as his next 1 year deal reflects him being a third line center I am fine with it. Pavelski was the Sharks leading goal scorer and wasn't 100% after the injury in the Preds game where he went into the boards very hard back first. Throw the fact that he likely hasn't been able to eat solid food since the first game of this series it isn't surprising he hasn't done well this playoffs. If you get rid of both of them as you suggest you just subtracted 54 goals and 99 points from the roster. |
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Post by Badger on Apr 18, 2019 14:37:51 GMT -8
I love the optimism of the board where today’s GDT has already turned into the off season thread.
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Post by Marbles on Apr 18, 2019 14:39:42 GMT -8
Do or die tonight. Definitely think most of us are siding with die. Finish it! End the pain. Release us to the cruel cruel summer and speculation of who is getting the boot. |
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Post by Marbles on Apr 18, 2019 14:40:18 GMT -8
For this team to win 3 in a row right now, seems less likely than Tampa getting swept by cbus. This team might be able to beat the girls SJ Jr. Sharks 19U AA team three in a row. Might. Big MIGHT...maybe if they swapped goalie's... And Kane would likely pop a lady in the head in the process. |
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Post by Marbles on Apr 18, 2019 14:41:43 GMT -8
negative as always I will be! Wife doesn't like my outlook on this. She says they could totally come back and win 3 in a row. I said are you watching the same games I am watching?! There is no way they are winning 3 in a row! She said they've done it before (she is new to hockey somewhat), I said no they haven't. (also someone fact check me on this but I don't recall them coming back from being 3 down). Anyway I said Vegas was our worst match up and we are slow and old! Need to get younger and faster. With that said,  Sharks have never won a series after going down 3-1. They have 4 wins all time after going down 3-1. They went down 3-1 against Dallas and won 2 games before losing in OT. They went down 3-1 against Vancouver before the lucky bounce off the boards. They went down 3-1 against Pittsburgh and won game 5 before losing in 6. 3-1 against LA before a game 5 smack down and then game 6 shart out of the president's trophy season. |
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Post by Marbles on Apr 18, 2019 14:49:44 GMT -8
I had to re-check that one. Take away one of their wins. The Sharks went down 3-0 in that series to then win Games 4 and 5. They then lost in the 4th OT. Your memory is spot on. That series was actually a great series. Nabby had the save of his Career in the 3rd ot of game 6. If we would have won that game, there pwas no doubt in my mind we would have won game 7 back in San Jose. The Sharks scored in overtime in game 5. I still remember the announcer saying" The Sharks have a date in the Lone Star State" or something to that affect. That game 5 was my first ever playoff game. We went into period 3 assuming the sharks were fucked (it was 2-0 with Turco who had been a wall all series)..figured wed take in the final period of Sharks hockey and call it a season.. Sharks score 2 late goals to tie and then Pavs scores within 1 minute or so of OT. The whole fucking town was elated on the drive home. That was a hell of a game |
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Post by cjelli on Apr 18, 2019 14:52:03 GMT -8
Jumbo? No, thanks. What exactly has DW throw 13 millions at in the last two years? Pavs? No, thanks. Excellent season, but his decline is imminent, and he's been there with each and every collapse of the team in the postseason, including captaining the last three ones (and one without the collapse).
Goodrow is not worth mentioning. His salary and his impact are not particularly significant.
The Sharks have less that one draft worth of picks over the next two years, seven in total, no 1, 2 or 4 coming summer and no 1 in 2020, so I have no idea where the rebuild tools can be obtained. The Sharks have two roster players under 25 and none under 22 in the league that has begun to appreciate younger age, so the trade baits aren't particularly attractive as well, and the M-NTCs aren't making it any easier.
DW bet the farm and lost and must go.
Once Jumbo got to the one year post knee surgery he has put up very respectable numbers for a third line center. As long as his next 1 year deal reflects him being a third line center I am fine with it. Pavelski was the Sharks leading goal scorer and wasn't 100% after the injury in the Preds game where he went into the boards very hard back first. Throw the fact that he likely hasn't been able to eat solid food since the first game of this series it isn't surprising he hasn't done well this playoffs. If you get rid of both of them as you suggest you just subtracted 54 goals and 99 points from the roster. This roster can survive with this subtraction (given that the replacements should bring some 30g/50a in), if it adds about 0.02 SVP. Thornton was paid 13 million to produce like a 3rd line center. At age 40, he might not even be that.
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Post by sjsharks59 on Apr 18, 2019 15:24:09 GMT -8
I sense tonight's game will be the Sharks last of this season. Not a given, but since we ALL know sharks look mostly broken and injured at this point, SJ 100% will *not* see the second round this spring. I find myself mostly envious of McPhee's GK roster; he had a unique circumstance to build it and he did a solid job top to bottom. If I could waive a magic wand and swap entire rosters with Vegas, I absolutely would. about 28 other franchises should want to also. GKs are all young, fast, skilled and edgy. Also they all have an ability to be physical, push and shove back hard. Mcphee clearly looked for that intangible as well. NO Donskoi type scare-crows on that roster. I'm betting, because of his long large contract, Martin Jones will be back at camp this fall. Expect Dell to be sent packing because he (also) failed at being the teams savior for Jones' worst season as a professional. MJs season wasn't a dip, Jones had a fall from the rim of the fucking Grand Canyon and influencers including DW now wonder if Jones can -ever- be put back together. Dell was given chance after chance, and even he couldn't get past .900. We should expect to see DW bringing in another NHL experienced goalie that can at least give Sharks a .910. Not an impossible bar. Jones will become a very expensive backup next season while undergoing psychotherapy. Johan Hedberg will be FIRED, obviously. What will happen in the sharks crease by next March is anybody's guess at this point. I don't see Jones recovering to become an 'elite' NHL goalie once again. DW is not going anywhere unless he retires. Hard decisions to make this summer. I don't think re-signing Pavs is an automatic. Maybe maybe Vlasic and Donskoi for 2 young scrappy NHLers? Resigning Meier will be a good move. I don't see any 'untouchables'. I agree with everyone else in here - the Sharks need to re-tool to become younger, faster, scrappier (easier said than done). Within that effort, having JT around for one more season as 3C would be a positive, IMO. Other than that, drink beer and keep enjoying the best time of year for watching hockey. I believe Vlasic has a FULL NTC |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Apr 18, 2019 15:26:06 GMT -8
Which 4th line would you rather have Vegas or Sharks? I myself like The Isles 4th line better then both of these teams |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Apr 18, 2019 15:31:23 GMT -8
I love the optimism of the board where today’s GDT has already turned into the off season thread. With this team & Jones in net we are thinking positive  |
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Post by danvilleshark on Apr 18, 2019 15:38:36 GMT -8
I had to re-check that one. Take away one of their wins. The Sharks went down 3-0 in that series to then win Games 4 and 5. They then lost in the 4th OT. Your memory is spot on. That series was actually a great series. Nabby had the save of his Career in the 3rd ot of game 6. If we would have won that game, there was no doubt in my mind we would have won game 7 back in San Jose. The Sharks scored in overtime in game 5. I still remember the announcer saying" The Sharks have a date in the Lone Star State" or something to that affect. The nabby glove save was at point black and was epic. It was Tyco in net for Dallas? |
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Post by Fugazi on Apr 18, 2019 15:40:34 GMT -8
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Post by LordNelson on Apr 18, 2019 16:46:16 GMT -8
I love the optimism of the board where today’s GDT has already turned into the off season thread. Heh Heh, yea I think so many of us can see the writing on the wall. I can’t think of any area the Sharks hold an advantage in this series. Optimism didnt make the return flight home from Vegas. |
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Post by wallyshark on Apr 18, 2019 17:01:01 GMT -8
That series was actually a great series. Nabby had the save of his Career in the 3rd ot of game 6. If we would have won that game, there was no doubt in my mind we would have won game 7 back in San Jose. The Sharks scored in overtime in game 5. I still remember the announcer saying" The Sharks have a date in the Lone Star State" or something to that affect. The nabby glove save was at point black and was epic. It was Tyco in net for Dallas? I believe that play went to review to see if Nabby's glove crossed the line from the force of the shot. Yes they did review it. |
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 17:03:49 GMT -8
I will be optimistic when the Sharks score the first 3. This team gave us comebacks a few times this year, yet I feel zero confidence in their ability against this team right now. Its not that they lost 3, its how they did it. Helpless and pathetic.
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Post by redbeard on Apr 18, 2019 17:04:05 GMT -8
I just saw that this is a 7pm start! Sweet! No chance I see the first period!
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 17:06:15 GMT -8
Nabbys best save is super depressing to watch right now. We are stuck with the worst in the league. Brought a knife to a gun fight
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Post by wallyshark on Apr 18, 2019 17:08:12 GMT -8
They better score the first 4 or VGK will come back. Hell I'll be happy with the first one if it gives us the lead, which if math is correct we haven't had since game 1. The Sharks are a much different Team when leading instead of chasing the game.
Another habit I've seen from the Sharks in addition to giving up early goals, is when we score the Sharks give one back to the other team within 2 shifts far too often.
GO SHARKS!
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Post by cjelli on Apr 18, 2019 17:08:22 GMT -8
Which 4th line would you rather have Vegas or Sharks? I myself like The Isles 4th line better then both of these teams The Islanders' 4th line consumes $9.3M/season. Pass. |
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 17:09:10 GMT -8
The nabby glove save was at point black and was epic. It was Tyco in net for Dallas? I believe that play went to review to see if Nabby's glove crossed the line from the force of the shot. Yes they did review it. And then the team let him down after that. Sharks most epic game yet is of course a loss. These fucking bums |
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Post by redbeard on Apr 18, 2019 17:12:44 GMT -8
Nabbys best save is super depressing to watch right now. We are stuck with the worst in the league. Brought a knife to a gun fight  |
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Post by wallyshark on Apr 18, 2019 17:13:43 GMT -8
I believe that play went to review to see if Nabby's glove crossed the line from the force of the shot. Yes they did review it. And then the team let him down after that. Sharks most epic game yet is of course a loss. These fucking bums Dallas got a PP in the 4th OT and scored. Also one of our top guns got hurt late in regulation and didn't come back. I can't remember who it was though. |
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 17:37:59 GMT -8
And then the team let him down after that. Sharks most epic game yet is of course a loss. These fucking bums Dallas got a PP in the 4th OT and scored. Also one of our top guns got hurt late in regulation and didn't come back. I can't remember who it was though. I was drunk when it happened, and probably drunk every time I tried to remember it, but I think you’re right we lost a big player during the game. Also Turco making a save almost as good as nabbys was |
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 17:41:40 GMT -8
Martin Jones where you at. Oh, starting game 5, ok
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Post by Marbles on Apr 18, 2019 17:53:00 GMT -8
And then the team let him down after that. Sharks most epic game yet is of course a loss. These fucking bums Dallas got a PP in the 4th OT and scored. Also one of our top guns got hurt late in regulation and didn't come back. I can't remember who it was though. Mihalek. Never forget |
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Post by wallyshark on Apr 18, 2019 17:54:33 GMT -8
Dallas got a PP in the 4th OT and scored. Also one of our top guns got hurt late in regulation and didn't come back. I can't remember who it was though. I was drunk when it happened, and probably drunk every time I tried to remember it, but I think you’re right we lost a big player during the game. Also Turco making a save almost as good as nabbys was I think it was Milan Michalek who was hurt. I remember him saying when it got to the 4th OT, he was going to try to get back in the game. That shows how shitty this Team is this Year, were talking about a big loss from 10 Years ago, yet it feels appropriate! |
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 18:03:39 GMT -8
Fuck, I hate Vegas so much
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Post by d5shark on Apr 18, 2019 18:12:58 GMT -8
Again??
Wait, wtf!!
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Apr 18, 2019 18:13:28 GMT -8
Nice shot Tomas
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Post by oaklandshark on Apr 18, 2019 18:15:01 GMT -8
Oh shit
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