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Post by d5shark on May 16, 2019 11:42:38 GMT -8
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Post by carolinasharksfan on May 16, 2019 11:58:13 GMT -8
I think Hertl got a concussion in the first period with the hit into the boards and his face slamming the ice. after that he couldn't stay on his skates. In addition, I've seen Pav's be a little hesitant in certain situations that he might take another shot to the head. Second thought of the night. vince dunn is a puss. Pavelski took one of the chicklets to score a goal and he never hit the ice; plus he came back and played. That's a warrior. Dunn took his to the side of the jaw. My guess is he has broken jaw. It would be pretty incredible if his jaw isn’t broken...maybe a concussion also. Any type of high speed impact like that to the face/head can shake your melon hard. Hope he’s okay and can’t criticize him for leaving the game after that.
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Post by sharkhaywood on May 16, 2019 12:22:13 GMT -8
Dunn took his to the side of the jaw. My guess is he has broken jaw. It would be pretty incredible if his jaw isn’t broken...maybe a concussion also. Any type of high speed impact like that to the face/head can shake your melon hard. Hope he’s okay and can’t criticize him for leaving the game after that. I immediately thought broken jaw and concussion seeing him skating off. His eyes had that blank stare to them and then he fell to the ground when he got to the bench.
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Post by clarkro2 on May 16, 2019 13:02:42 GMT -8
From Keith Olbermann:
That the NHL cannot review a game-deciding mistake by referees but can debate a quarter inch worth of offsides is the shame of the NHL.
For the second time, the referees have given San Jose a victory. It’s indefensible.
This overtime must be replayed or no 2019 Cup awarded.
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Post by stewpididiot on May 16, 2019 13:06:51 GMT -8
Sorry, I'm definitely a Sharks fan so maybe I'm seeing this through teal colored lenses, but I have tried to approach this objectively. I saw only one angle last night, and it was clear that Meier played the puck with his hand. But swatting the puck doesn't immediately end play. I watched this video several times, and based on the angle of the video taken from behind the net it seems pretty clear that the puck bounced off of Blues #19 while on its way to Karlsson. The puck seems to slightly change speed & direction as it goes by his leg. Maybe someone with good video skills could zoom in on it and slow it down. Edit: IMHO at about 1:40 of this video you can see Blues #19's shorts move as the puck hits him on its way to Karlsson. But hey, I also say Landeskog was on the ice and the Vegas call was 100% correct...
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Post by HOOCH2173 on May 16, 2019 13:14:37 GMT -8
From Keith Olbermann: That the NHL cannot review a game-deciding mistake by referees but can debate a quarter inch worth of offsides is the shame of the NHL. For the second time, the referees have given San Jose a victory. It’s indefensible. This overtime must be replayed or no 2019 Cup awarded.also Keith just stick to being Tom Jumbo-Grumbo!
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Post by d5shark on May 16, 2019 13:27:07 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on May 16, 2019 13:45:50 GMT -8
From Keith Olbermann: That the NHL cannot review a game-deciding mistake by referees but can debate a quarter inch worth of offsides is the shame of the NHL. For the second time, the referees have given San Jose a victory. It’s indefensible. This overtime must be replayed or no 2019 Cup awarded. Fuck Keith Olbermann and ESPN, asunder.
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Post by Fugazi on May 16, 2019 14:00:02 GMT -8
From Keith Olbermann: That the NHL cannot review a game-deciding mistake by referees but can debate a quarter inch worth of offsides is the shame of the NHL. For the second time, the referees have given San Jose a victory. It’s indefensible. This overtime must be replayed or no 2019 Cup awarded. Fuck Keith Olbermann and ESPN, asunder. Olbermann? That's the last guy I want to hear comment about Hockey
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Post by John96 on May 16, 2019 14:53:02 GMT -8
Don't know when the last time I saw this kind of league-wide outrage over a a blown call.
It's a bad call, it was an obvious whistle and the officials didn't blow it down. That's on them and they need to reap what they sow.
Pretty much same thing that happened to Vlasic against the Avalanche. Unless you hear a whistle, you play. Done. End of story. The Blues stopped playing but Meier and Karlsson didn't. Pretty clear Binnington was listening for the whistle that never came, he practically fell down on his own. If he makes that save this is a non-story. In fact if he stops that not pretty Karlsson shot and the Blues go on to win, the story probably becomes the non call on Perron for delay of game. Let's not forget that, the guy who tied the game and gave the Blues the lead should've been in the box just before all that. Then the story is how a blown call cost the Sharks and not the Blues.
Officials can't be let off the hook. It's an awful mistake. But I'm telling you, the more you want reviewed, the more will be reviewed. And the more you give, the stronger the push will be for more. It's how these things work, always has been. Pretty soon everything will be reviewed and I don't want that. If there is going to be instant replay it should be for the black-and-white calls and should be limited to a two minute reviews.
I don't mind seeing the bickering and whatnot going on though. For all their faults San Jose has bounced back from getting the short end of the stick, not just from officials either, a bunch of times. They are a resilient group. One can wonder if St. Louis is rattled after what happened last night. Guess G4 will tell...
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Post by sharkhaywood on May 16, 2019 14:55:47 GMT -8
Don't know when the last time I saw this kind of league-wide outrage over a a blown call. It's a bad call, it was an obvious whistle and the officials didn't blow it down. That's on them and they need to reap what they sow. Pretty much same thing that happened to Vlasic against the Avalanche. Unless you hear a whistle, you play. Done. End of story. The Blues stopped playing but Meier and Karlsson didn't. Pretty clear Binnington was listening for the whistle that never came, he practically fell down on his own. If he makes that save this is a non-story. In fact if he stops that not pretty Karlsson shot and the Blues go on to win, the story probably becomes the non call on Perron for delay of game. Let's not forget that, the guy who tied the game and gave the Blues the lead should've been in the box just before all that. Then the story is how a blown call cost the Sharks and not the Blues. Officials can't be let off the hook. It's an awful mistake. But I'm telling you, the more you want reviewed, the more will be reviewed. And the more you give, the stronger the push will be for more. It's how these things work, always has been. Pretty soon everything will be reviewed and I don't want that. If there is going to be instant replay it should be for the black-and-white calls and should be limited to a two minute reviews. I don't mind seeing the bickering and whatnot going on though. For all their faults San Jose has bounced back from getting the short end of the stick, not just from officials either, a bunch of times. They are a resilient group. One can wonder if St. Louis is rattled after what happened last night. Guess G4 will tell... I still find it odd that of all the players on the ice only Binnington was the one who immediately reacted to the refs after the goal. I thought that was pretty weird.
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Post by sharkhaywood on May 16, 2019 15:13:15 GMT -8
I am a bit surprised by the number of tickets still available for Game 5.
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Post by Fugazi on May 16, 2019 15:24:23 GMT -8
I am a bit surprised by the number of tickets still available for Game 5. Sunday game at Noon. People will probably still be in church
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Post by Fugazi on May 16, 2019 15:25:02 GMT -8
Fast forward to the 8 minute mark. Wilbon thinks the Blues got hosed
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Post by John96 on May 16, 2019 15:34:28 GMT -8
Watched two videos discussing the subject, in both, people referenced the San Jose Sharks as the Blues and Anaheim.
Just saying.
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Post by cjelli on May 16, 2019 15:39:33 GMT -8
Don't know when the last time I saw this kind of league-wide outrage over a a blown call. It's a bad call, it was an obvious whistle and the officials didn't blow it down. That's on them and they need to reap what they sow. Pretty much same thing that happened to Vlasic against the Avalanche. Unless you hear a whistle, you play. Done. End of story. The Blues stopped playing but Meier and Karlsson didn't. Pretty clear Binnington was listening for the whistle that never came, he practically fell down on his own. If he makes that save this is a non-story. In fact if he stops that not pretty Karlsson shot and the Blues go on to win, the story probably becomes the non call on Perron for delay of game. Let's not forget that, the guy who tied the game and gave the Blues the lead should've been in the box just before all that. Then the story is how a blown call cost the Sharks and not the Blues. Officials can't be let off the hook. It's an awful mistake. But I'm telling you, the more you want reviewed, the more will be reviewed. And the more you give, the stronger the push will be for more. It's how these things work, always has been. Pretty soon everything will be reviewed and I don't want that. If there is going to be instant replay it should be for the black-and-white calls and should be limited to a two minute reviews. I don't mind seeing the bickering and whatnot going on though. For all their faults San Jose has bounced back from getting the short end of the stick, not just from officials either, a bunch of times. They are a resilient group. One can wonder if St. Louis is rattled after what happened last night. Guess G4 will tell... I still find it odd that of all the players on the ice only Binnington was the one who immediately reacted to the refs after the goal. I thought that was pretty weird. Oh that is actually simple, the goalie tracks the puck all the time. The players track the other players more than they track the puck.
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Post by sharkhaywood on May 16, 2019 16:04:24 GMT -8
Fast forward to the 8 minute mark. Wilbon thinks the Blues got hosed Those guys are both idiots. For anyone to still be complaining about the offside in the Avs game 7 is an absolute joke. As Bob McKenzie said the next day "it was clearly offside. They had 6 guys on the ice. It doesn't matter if Landeskog touched up on the offside because he can't be on the ice.
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Post by d5shark on May 16, 2019 16:13:55 GMT -8
Fast forward to the 8 minute mark. Wilbon thinks the Blues got hosed Those guys are both idiots. For anyone to still be complaining about the offside in the Avs game 7 is an absolute joke. As Bob McKenzie said the next day "it was clearly offside. They had 6 guys on the ice. It doesn't matter if Landeskog touched up on the offside because he can't be on the ice. 6 players on the ice doesn't make or break and offsides though. The fact that he didn't clear the zone makes him offsides. I find it funny that people make the argument that he had nothing to do with the play and that isn't the spirit of the rule. I would agree that its not in the spirit of the rule, but he was still clearly offsides. That's like saying that a guy skating back out of the zone trying to clear the zone should not impact whether whether the play is offsides or not since he will have no impact on the players trying to enter the zone again.
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 16:24:49 GMT -8
Sharks still the winner of this game? Good.
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 16:28:30 GMT -8
From Keith Olbermann: That the NHL cannot review a game-deciding mistake by referees but can debate a quarter inch worth of offsides is the shame of the NHL. For the second time, the referees have given San Jose a victory. It’s indefensible. This overtime must be replayed or no 2019 Cup awarded. Keith Oberloser can suck it.
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Post by Badger on May 16, 2019 16:53:08 GMT -8
Don't know when the last time I saw this kind of league-wide outrage over a a blown call. It's a bad call, it was an obvious whistle and the officials didn't blow it down. That's on them and they need to reap what they sow. Pretty much same thing that happened to Vlasic against the Avalanche. Unless you hear a whistle, you play. Done. End of story. The Blues stopped playing but Meier and Karlsson didn't. Pretty clear Binnington was listening for the whistle that never came, he practically fell down on his own. If he makes that save this is a non-story. In fact if he stops that not pretty Karlsson shot and the Blues go on to win, the story probably becomes the non call on Perron for delay of game. Let's not forget that, the guy who tied the game and gave the Blues the lead should've been in the box just before all that. Then the story is how a blown call cost the Sharks and not the Blues. Officials can't be let off the hook. It's an awful mistake. But I'm telling you, the more you want reviewed, the more will be reviewed. And the more you give, the stronger the push will be for more. It's how these things work, always has been. Pretty soon everything will be reviewed and I don't want that. If there is going to be instant replay it should be for the black-and-white calls and should be limited to a two minute reviews. I don't mind seeing the bickering and whatnot going on though. For all their faults San Jose has bounced back from getting the short end of the stick, not just from officials either, a bunch of times. They are a resilient group. One can wonder if St. Louis is rattled after what happened last night. Guess G4 will tell... Nothing to see here. Just keep moving along...
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Post by Badger on May 16, 2019 16:57:16 GMT -8
The Sharks may be better at eliminating refs than their opposition.
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 17:20:33 GMT -8
The Sharks may be better at eliminating refs than their opposition. At least the Vegas refs lasted to game 7. Given them credit.
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Post by Marbles on May 16, 2019 18:55:45 GMT -8
Just win the game for Johnny! DO it for Johnny! When the Sharks steal game 4 on another controversial call and need to get the fuck out of dodge.
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 19:24:50 GMT -8
Just win the game for Johnny! DO it for Johnny! This is actually very good but how many of you know where this is from? Be honest.
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Post by Marbles on May 16, 2019 19:29:14 GMT -8
Maradona "hand of God" 1986 World Cup Meir "Hand of Puck" WCF 2019 MeirDon! MeirDon!
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 19:36:03 GMT -8
Maradona "hand of God" 1986 World Cup Meir "Hand of Puck" WCF 2019 MeirDon! MeirDon! The UK does not like this reference
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Post by Marbles on May 16, 2019 20:20:05 GMT -8
Those guys are both idiots. For anyone to still be complaining about the offside in the Avs game 7 is an absolute joke. As Bob McKenzie said the next day "it was clearly offside. They had 6 guys on the ice. It doesn't matter if Landeskog touched up on the offside because he can't be on the ice. 6 players on the ice doesn't make or break and offsides though. The fact that he didn't clear the zone makes him offsides. I find it funny that people make the argument that he had nothing to do with the play and that isn't the spirit of the rule. I would agree that its not in the spirit of the rule, but he was still clearly offsides. That's like saying that a guy skating back out of the zone trying to clear the zone should not impact whether whether the play is offsides or not since he will have no impact on the players trying to enter the zone again. #fundamentals
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Post by Marbles on May 16, 2019 20:22:51 GMT -8
Just win the game for Johnny! DO it for Johnny! This is actually very good but how many of you know where this is from? Be honest. My guess is the Untouchables which I've never seen but seems about that era. I was always a 90s Matt Dillon guy. I'm talking Singles, Something About Mary, and the magnum opus - Wild Things. Goodnight Irene.
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Post by danvilleshark on May 16, 2019 21:41:43 GMT -8
No luck Marbles. This movie had a very young cast that would become very famous. The cast will surprise you.
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