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Post by sjsharks59 on Jun 24, 2019 14:35:52 GMT -8
The only way to really keep Pavs is to move probably Dell, Melker and probably Dillon. If they move Dillon the Sharks become an even softer team. I would not like it if Dillon left. I think he's underrated. Like You said if he leaves, the Sharks become pushovers. The Sharks have always been pushovers/soft with or without Dillon..
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 24, 2019 14:44:21 GMT -8
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Post by John96 on Jun 24, 2019 14:53:08 GMT -8
I would not like it if Dillon left. I think he's underrated. Like You said if he leaves, the Sharks become pushovers. The Sharks have always been pushovers/soft with or without Dillon.. Agreed. I've never been impressed with Dillon's toughness. He checks fine but he hasn't had many punishing hits, it looks like he lets up a lot or just mistimes or misreads the play and ends up hitting the boards as much as the player. He barely fights anymore and isn't great when he does either. But all that said, his game has rounded out nicely and on a team without many physical players, everything helps so I appreciate what he brings. But if he (and Kane too) are your answer to teams like the Golden Knights or Blues than you are in trouble.
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Post by John96 on Jun 24, 2019 15:00:32 GMT -8
I can easily see Pavelski leaving. It would suck but if the hold up is term, you have say goodbye. This team is still in a good position if he goes, signing him long term so that the inevitable drop off hamstrings you isn't the right way to do business. Letting a guy like that go hurts in the dressing room a bunch and at that point why would you bring back Thornton and Marleau? Just hand the team over to Couture already and move on. The only way to really keep Pavs is to move probably Dell, Melker and probably Dillon. If they move Dillon the Sharks become an even softer team. Dell and Karlsson can go, I don't think anyone would care. Dillon is very expendable (also very affordable) but now we're talking about a miserably unbalanced defense. You go from Burns-Karlsson-Vlasic to Simek-Ryan-Middleton, and/or maybe some bargain brand vet? Best case scenario you have a third pair that plays <10m a night and doesn't see a shift in the third period. I don't think that is a winning formula when you're gunning for a cup. Though I could see the argument the other way that unless you have two of the big three together one of them is going to be overpaid for how they're used by DeBoer and than hanging onto Dillon is less important.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 24, 2019 15:33:31 GMT -8
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 24, 2019 15:40:50 GMT -8
The only way to really keep Pavs is to move probably Dell, Melker and probably Dillon. If they move Dillon the Sharks become an even softer team. Dell and Karlsson can go, I don't think anyone would care. Dillon is very expendable (also very affordable) but now we're talking about a miserably unbalanced defense. You go from Burns-Karlsson-Vlasic to Simek-Ryan-Middleton, and/or maybe some bargain brand vet? Best case scenario you have a third pair that plays <10m a night and doesn't see a shift in the third period. I don't think that is a winning formula when you're gunning for a cup. Though I could see the argument the other way that unless you have two of the big three together one of them is going to be overpaid for how they're used by DeBoer and than hanging onto Dillon is less important. I suppose we didn't really see much of the Sharks playing 5 Dmen when the big 3 were all healthy.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 24, 2019 18:15:17 GMT -8
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 25, 2019 3:23:48 GMT -8
I would not like it if Dillon left. I think he's underrated. Like You said if he leaves, the Sharks become pushovers. The Sharks have always been pushovers/soft with or without Dillon.. I mostly agree with this and its 100% true of times in Sharks history, especially the past few years. However, when Clowe and Crank Shaft were both playing they did a decent job of taking care of business. No way Clowe would have let someone run Pavs and get away with it.
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jun 25, 2019 7:04:10 GMT -8
The Sharks have always been pushovers/soft with or without Dillon.. I mostly agree with this and its 100% true of times in Sharks history, especially the past few years. However, when Clowe and Crank Shaft were both playing they did a decent job of taking care of business. No way Clowe would have let someone run Pavs and get away with it. I agree. I grew up watching/following the NY Islanders(starting in 1974) out here in the Bay Area & if anyone tried to mess with Mike Bossy(Pavs is not Bossy, not even close) that player or team had to deal with Jethro(Clark Gillies) or Bobby Nystrom.. The Sharks need someone(or 2) like those guys & Kane is not that Guy or they will continue to be pushed around. Those Guys( Gillies & Nystrom) can even score. I like the Isles 4th line they have now, Go out hit & possibly score
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Post by redbeard on Jun 25, 2019 7:35:24 GMT -8
So, Pavs is going to pack up his lead boots and go for the money?
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 25, 2019 7:55:29 GMT -8
So, Pavs is going to pack up his lead boots and go for the money? Either that or he is finding out what the market is for his services to squeeze as much money as he can out of the Sharks. It is probably his last NHL contract so I can't say as I blame the guy.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 8:06:55 GMT -8
from the Washington Capitals,
Brooks Orpik has announced his retirement today from the National Hockey League (NHL) after 15 seasons.
Born in San Francisco, California, but raised in Amherst, New York, the steady defenceman was a well-respected teammate and leader with the Pittsburgh Penguins and Washington Capitals over the course of his career - a journey that saw him total 194 points over his 1,035 regular-season games.
"I've been extremely lucky to have the best job in the world for many years, but my body is telling me it is time to move on to something new," said Orpik. "I'm excited for more family time and to experience a lot of the things that being a professional athlete forces you to miss out on. Thank you to the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins for giving me the opportunity to play against the best athletes in the world. I'll be forever grateful for the memories and relationships that hockey has given me."
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 8:15:43 GMT -8
NEW YORK (June 25, 2019) – The NHL’s 2019-20 regular season will commence Wednesday, Oct. 2, with a four-game slate, highlighted by the St. Louis Blues raising their first Stanley Cup championship banner before facing the Washington Capitals at Enterprise Center. The 1,271-game regular-season schedule – 82 games per team – will conclude Saturday, April 4, 2020.
The other three games on the first night of the 2019-20 season include the Ottawa Senators visiting the Toronto Maple Leafs at Scotiabank Arena; the Edmonton Oilers hosting the Vancouver Canucks at Rogers Place; and the Vegas Golden Knights playing host to the San Jose Sharks at T-Mobile Arena.
The Buffalo Sabres and Vancouver Canucks are both celebrating their 50th anniversary in 2019-20. The Sabres open their season in Buffalo at KeyBank Center on Oct. 5 versus the New Jersey Devils. The Canucks will play their home opener at Rogers Arena against the Los Angeles Kingson Oct. 9, exactly 49 years after the franchise’s first NHL regular-season game, also against the Kings (Los Angeles 3, Vancouver 1 on Oct. 9, 1970).
Four teams will participate in the 2019 NHL Global Series and play regular-season games in Europe. The Chicago Blackhawks and PhiladelphiaFlyers will play their 2019-20 season-opening game against each other in Prague, Czech Republic on Friday, Oct. 4 at O2 Arena. The BuffaloSabres and Tampa Bay Lightning will face off in a pair of regular-season games at Ericsson Globe in Stockholm, Sweden on Friday, Nov. 8 and Saturday, Nov. 9.
On Oct. 26, the Calgary Flames and Winnipeg Jets will meet outdoors at Mosaic Stadium in Regina, Saskatchewan in the 2019 Tim Hortons NHL Heritage Classic™.
A rematch of the 2019 Stanley Cup Final will take place on Oct. 26 when the Boston Bruins play host to the St. Louis Blues at TD Garden.
The 2019 NHL Thanksgiving Showdown will take place on Friday, Nov. 29, when the Bruins host the New York Rangers at TD Garden.
On New Year’s Day, the 2020 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic® will feature the Dallas Stars and Nashville Predators outdoors at Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas. The game is a rematch of the 2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs First Round series between the Stars and Predators, and continues the tradition the League established in 2008 of hosting a regular-season outdoor game at the onset of the new year.
The League’s regular-season schedule will pause from Jan. 23-26 when the world’s top players gather in St. Louis for the 2020 Honda NHL All-Star Weekend at Enterprise Center, which will include the 2020 NHL All-Star Skills Competition™ and the 2020 Honda NHL All-Star Game.
Saturday, Feb. 8 will mark Hockey Day in Canada, and will feature all seven Canadian teams in action.
On Saturday, Feb. 15, the Colorado Avalanche will play host to the Los Angeles Kings outdoors at the 2020 NHL Stadium Series™ at the U.S. Air Force Academy’s Falcon Stadium in Colorado Springs, Colo. The outdoor game will mark the second time the NHL has brought the NHL Stadium Series™ to a U.S. Service Academy.
Hockey Day in America will be celebrated on Sunday, Feb. 16 and will feature nine games, with the first starting at 12:30 p.m. ET and the ninth at 8:30 p.m. ET.
The 2019-20 regular season will conclude Saturday, April 4, when 30 of the League’s 31 teams take to the ice.
Reminder: Scheduling Matrix
The scheduling matrix ensures that all 31 teams play in all 31 arenas at least once each season:
The following notes show the opponents by team (totaling 41 home / 41 away per team), based on each team’s respective division and conference.
Eastern Conference (Atlantic and Metropolitan Divisions – 8 Teams each)
Each Division has 8 teams
Within Division
7 teams x 2 home / 2 away (Subtotal 14 home / 14 away)
Within Conference (Non-Division)
4 teams x 2 home / 1 away (Subtotal 8 home / 4 away)
4 teams x 1 home / 2 away (Subtotal 4 home / 8 away)
Non-Conference
15 teams x 1 home / 1 away (Subtotal 15 home / 15 away)
Grand Total 41 home / 41 away
Western Conference (Central Division – 7 teams)
Within Division
4 teams x 2 home / 2 away (Subtotal 8 home / 8 away)
1 team x 3 home / 2 away (Subtotal 3 home / 2 away)
1 team x 2 home / 3 away (Subtotal 2 away / 3 home)
Within Conference (Non-Division)
4 teams x 2 home / 1 away (Subtotal 8 home / 4 away)
4 teams x 1 home / 2 away (Subtotal 4 home / 8 away)
Non-Conference
16 teams x 1 home / 1 away (Subtotal 16 home / 16 away)
Grand Total 41 home / 41 away
Western Conference (Pacific Division – 8 teams)
A. 4 of the 8 teams in Pacific Division
Within Division
6 teams x 2 home / 2 away (Subtotal 12 home / 12 away)
1 team x 3 home / 2 away (Subtotal 3 home / 2 away)
Within Conference (Non-Division)
3 teams x 2 home / 1 away (Subtotal 6 home / 3 away)
4 teams x 1 home / 2 away (Subtotal 4 home / 8 away)
Non-Conference
16 teams x 1 home / 1 away (Subtotal 16 home / 16 away)
Grand Total 41 home / 41 away
B. 4 of the 8 teams in Pacific Division
Within Division
6 teams x 2 home / 2 away (Subtotal 12 home / 12 away)
1 team x 2 home / 3 away (Subtotal 2 home / 3 away)
Within Conference (Non-Division)
4 teams x 2 home / 1 away (Subtotal 8 home / 4 away)
3 teams x 1 home / 2 away (Subtotal 3 home / 6 away)
Non-Conference
16 teams x 1 home / 1 away (Subtotal 16 home / 16 away)
Grand Total 41 home / 41 away
Schedule Notes
Regular Season Opens: Wednesday, Oct. 2
Christmas Break: Monday, Dec. 24 – Wednesday, Dec. 26
All-Star Break: Thursday, Jan. 23 – Sunday, Jan. 26
Last Day of Regular Season: Saturday, April 4
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Post by redbeard on Jun 25, 2019 8:32:57 GMT -8
So, Pavs is going to pack up his lead boots and go for the money? Either that or he is finding out what the market is for his services to squeeze as much money as he can out of the Sharks. It is probably his last NHL contract so I can't say as I blame the guy. Yeah, like I said, he's going for the money. That's his priority, as well as his perogative...
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 25, 2019 8:43:48 GMT -8
Either that or he is finding out what the market is for his services to squeeze as much money as he can out of the Sharks. It is probably his last NHL contract so I can't say as I blame the guy. Yeah, like I said, he's going for the money. That's his priority, as well as his perogative... Can’t blame him for that.
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Post by d5shark on Jun 25, 2019 8:52:14 GMT -8
Yeah, like I said, he's going for the money. That's his priority, as well as his perogative... Can’t blame him for that. Not his fault that the Sharks are in terrible cap position and can't pay him what a 40 goal scorer is worth.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 25, 2019 9:00:50 GMT -8
Can’t blame him for that. Not his fault that the Sharks are in terrible cap position and can't pay him what a 40 goal scorer is worth. Yeah just can’t fit him in based today’s reality.
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 25, 2019 9:20:12 GMT -8
Can’t blame him for that. Not his fault that the Sharks are in terrible cap position and can't pay him what a 40 goal scorer is worth. I think the writing was on the wall once the Karlsson contract got signed. Another team is going to throw probably a 3 year $7 million or more contract at him. So if you are DW do you look to keep Nyquist in the fold if Pavelski goes elsewhere? Strange I haven't heard anything on twitter about any interest in Nyquist.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 9:58:59 GMT -8
ST. LOUIS - St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the team has signed Head Coach Craig Berube to a three-year contract.
Berube, who was originally named interim head coach on Nov. 19, 2018, led the Blues to the 2019 Stanley Cup Championship and was a finalist for the 2019 Jack Adams Award.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:01:31 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:04:34 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:05:21 GMT -8
DENVER – The Colorado Avalanche Hockey Club announced today that the team has acquired defenseman Kevin Connauton and a third-round selection in the 2020 NHL Draft from the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for forward Carl Soderberg.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:14:53 GMT -8
The Winnipeg Jets will not tender a qualifying offer to Nathan Beaulieu, Joe Morrow or Marko Dano and they will become UFA’s on July 1st.
Jimmy Oligny and Ken Appleby also aren’t expected to get a QO.
Eric Comrie, Kyle Connor, Andrew Copp, Patrik Laine, Nelson Nogier and Neal Pionk are all expected to receive qualifying offers.
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Post by John96 on Jun 25, 2019 10:38:34 GMT -8
The Winnipeg Jets will not tender a qualifying offer to Nathan Beaulieu, Joe Morrow or Marko Dano and they will become UFA’s on July 1st. Jimmy Oligny and Ken Appleby also aren’t expected to get a QO. Eric Comrie, Kyle Connor, Andrew Copp, Patrik Laine, Nelson Nogier and Neal Pionk are all expected to receive qualifying offers. Beaulieu would be decent depth, never hit his ceiling but he’s sneaky tough. Are we sure the Sharks will role with Ryan/Middleton as 6/7D?
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:41:06 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:42:09 GMT -8
The Winnipeg Jets will not tender a qualifying offer to Nathan Beaulieu, Joe Morrow or Marko Dano and they will become UFA’s on July 1st. Jimmy Oligny and Ken Appleby also aren’t expected to get a QO. Eric Comrie, Kyle Connor, Andrew Copp, Patrik Laine, Nelson Nogier and Neal Pionk are all expected to receive qualifying offers. Beaulieu would be decent depth, never hit his ceiling but he’s sneaky tough. Are we sure the Sharks will role with Ryan/Middleton as 6/7D? I wouldn't trust either one of those guys. Ryan has a bad habit of losing focus and positioning
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 25, 2019 10:43:00 GMT -8
Can’t blame him for that. Not his fault that the Sharks are in terrible cap position and can't pay him what a 40 goal scorer is worth. I agree. I also hope the Sharks make a good business decision.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 10:52:42 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 11:16:09 GMT -8
from TSN,
Six more received their calls to the Hall on Tuesday.
Four-time Olympic gold medalist Hayley Wickenheiser, Montreal Canadiens great Guy Carbonneau, longtime Dallas Stars defenceman Sergei Zubov and Vaclav Nedomansky, the first player to defect to North America to play, were among the sextet selected for induction to the Hockey Hall of Fame next fall.
They will be joined in the Builders Category by current Pittsburgh Penguins general manager Jim Rutherford and longstanding Boston College coach Jerry York.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 25, 2019 11:27:02 GMT -8
from Pierre LeBrun of The Athletic,
As another GM explained to me over the weekend in Vancouver, and he’s not the first, is the concern in giving up four first-round picks required for a huge offer sheet is that his team (which made the playoffs this past season by the way) has an injury-plagued campaign and one of those first-rounders turns into a lottery selection (you obviously can’t lottery-protect those picks). It’s been a refrain conveyed to me from a few teams.
But, you never know, right? This is a special summer like we’ve never seen before.
“It is ever,’’ one agent said on Tuesday.
Unless you’re a hockey fan living under a rock, you know that Sebastian Aho, Brayden Point, Patrik Laine, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Timo Meier, Brock Boeser, Zach Werenski, Ivan Provorov and Charlie McAvoy are all coming out of their entry-level contracts this summer.
much more (paid)....
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