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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:30:39 GMT -8
Thanks Colorado for taking him off our hands. I was tired of watching him fall all over the ice. Yeah, But at least the spots where he fell were clean  |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:33:55 GMT -8
My complaint is Marleau sucks at ANY price. Flyers just got a lot tougher through free agency, why can't the sharks? 12 won't hustle, he won't back-check hard like a 4th liner must do. He doesn't go nose first to the net. Mike Babcock knew PM was done. It fucks up Alex True, Ivan Chekhovich or somebody else getting a real shot at hustling into a roster spot. Shark roster takes a small step backwards, gets softer with DW providing Marleau an NHL farewell tour season. Dumping Donkey made the sharks tougher. Sharks & Tough don't mix More like Sharks=Country club They need grit who can score & don't say Kane, His elevator stops at his shoulders |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 14:37:15 GMT -8
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:37:32 GMT -8
I'm not sure what your complaint is. I would take Patty back at a 4th liners salary right now. I think most people would. Unless you are worried about Michael Haley's roster spot. My complaint is Marleau sucks at ANY price. Flyers just got a lot tougher through free agency, why can't the sharks? 12 won't hustle, he won't back-check hard like a 4th liner must do. He doesn't go nose first to the net. Mike Babcock knew PM was done. It fucks up Alex True, Ivan Chekhovich or somebody else getting a real shot at hustling into a roster spot. Shark roster takes a small step backwards, gets softer with DW providing Marleau an NHL farewell tour season. Sharks & tough don't mix As for Marleau, When I had my season tickets(Glad I gave them up, priced us out of the arena) we can a guy sitting by us, every time Marleau went into the corner to hit the dman, The guy would yell out, Hey Marleau hit him with your purse, Still funny to this day |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:39:12 GMT -8
Meier - Couture - Kane (I hope he can stick) Gaping Hole - Hertl - Labanc Marleau - Jumbo - Sorrenson Karlsson - Goodrow - (Gambrell or Cuda) Soumela may be interesting if he's grown at all. I am not sure I like Labanc and Hertl but also not sure you continue to play him with Joe. Also I'd shy away from Patty in top 6 though we may have another of those situations where you run 3 sets of strong pairs up and down the line up. jeez that 3rd line is almost as old as Nancy Pelosi. Hopefully they don't start looking like Old Stretch Pelosi |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:40:59 GMT -8
jeez that 3rd line is almost as old as Nancy Pelosi. Come on man, Sorrenson is like 25. He has to help that average come down. That's 25 in his country, Check his birth cert. LOL |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 14:41:52 GMT -8
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:42:16 GMT -8
This makes sense Bill Walsh is still a genius. DW still trying to learn Bill Walsh won titles, DW has won a tanning contest. That is all. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 14:43:03 GMT -8
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:44:08 GMT -8
I was going to say Melker Karlson |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 14:46:15 GMT -8
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:47:08 GMT -8
No doubt he wants to play here but he has zero leverage to make it happen. DW alone makes this call. 12 knows DWs loyalty personality and wrapped his plan to get home around that. Appears to be working. Local press will write happy stories about Marleau and there will be lots of smiles. Meanwhile you'll attend a Vegas game next season and point out Sharks need more sandpaper in the lineup to beat them. You'll again hate watching a polite team while Marleau goes -2 for the night. We'll see how much DeBoer will put up with. As long as the Sharks players say to Vegas players Excuse me for running into your elbow & getting blood on your jersey. LOL DeBoer is a puppet |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 14:55:27 GMT -8
I'm going to throw this 1 out here. Would the board rather have Marleau for Probably over a million or so(after he gave SJ half the peace sign 2 years ago) or Jason Spezza for the 700K he signed with the Leafs today?
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jul 1, 2019 15:00:31 GMT -8
Colorado adds some sandpaper.
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 15:01:01 GMT -8
Colorado traded Tyson Barrie to the Leafs for N.Kadri
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jul 1, 2019 15:03:27 GMT -8
I'm going to throw this 1 out here. Would the board rather have Marleau for Probably over a million or so(after he gave SJ half the peace sign 2 years ago) or Jason Spezza for the 700K he signed with the Leafs today? Spezza is playing for his hometown team so that would likely be why he took that low amount of money. Doubtful he would agree to play in San Jose for that same amount. Last year: Spezza - 76 games - 8 goals - 19 assists Marleau - 82 games - 16 goals - 21 assists |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 15:07:08 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 15:10:03 GMT -8
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jul 1, 2019 15:15:00 GMT -8
This is classic. Tyson Barrie having lunch with Biz Nasty when the trade was announced.
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 15:36:25 GMT -8
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Post by John96 on Jul 1, 2019 15:38:52 GMT -8
Dumping Donkey made the sharks tougher. Sharks & Tough don't mix More like Sharks=Country club They need grit who can score & don't say Kane, His elevator stops at his shoulders If you're looking for someone who can intimidate and play the game while also remaining disciplined keep looking. Brad Marchand, both Tkachuks, James Neal, Corey Perry, Tom Wilson, and plenty others have made quite the impact, quite the reputation, and quite the money in this league despite crossing the line and costing their team numerous times. I'd almost say that to be intimidating demands that you cross a line most guys won't, at least in today's game. There's no straight-up, honest, measuring up of toughness to toughness so you pick your spots where you can force your will. Poor playoffs aside Kane was everything the Sharks wanted when they got him and he turned his physical, abrasive game up a notch after getting paid. For many guys, it is usually the opposite. Is there a player(s) you have in mind? Obviously I don't think Kane and Dillon are enough for the hockey I live but comparatively around the league, it's probably on par with most teams. Would it be great to see them add a guy like Ferland to their second line, a guy who can skate, score, hit, and fight? 100% yes. Would a throwback D like McQuaid as depth be nice add? Of course. But it seems unlikely given their cap situation. |
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Post by John96 on Jul 1, 2019 15:44:30 GMT -8
Colorado adds some sandpaper. Can't help but think the retained salary makes it a big win for the Leafs. Kadri will never be more than a 3C there. A very good and appropriately priced 3C, but a 3C nonetheless and those are expendable. Makes sense for the Avalanche to add some grit but the other side of the coin is Toronto just lost the only grit they had. Interesting to see Dubas/Babcock doubling down on speed/skill to win out after several repeated failures. If they don't get out of the first round next year, I'd be shocked if Babcock stays and I would say Dubas too but Dubas could probably get away with a coaching change before his head is on the block. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 16:15:06 GMT -8
Sharks & Tough don't mix More like Sharks=Country club They need grit who can score & don't say Kane, His elevator stops at his shoulders If you're looking for someone who can intimidate and play the game while also remaining disciplined keep looking. Brad Marchand, both Tkachuks, James Neal, Corey Perry, Tom Wilson, and plenty others have made quite the impact, quite the reputation, and quite the money in this league despite crossing the line and costing their team numerous times. I'd almost say that to be intimidating demands that you cross a line most guys won't, at least in today's game. There's no straight-up, honest, measuring up of toughness to toughness so you pick your spots where you can force your will. Poor playoffs aside Kane was everything the Sharks wanted when they got him and he turned his physical, abrasive game up a notch after getting paid. For many guys, it is usually the opposite. Is there a player(s) you have in mind? Obviously I don't think Kane and Dillon are enough for the hockey I live but comparatively around the league, it's probably on par with most teams. Would it be great to see them add a guy like Ferland to their second line, a guy who can skate, score, hit, and fight? 100% yes. Would a throwback D like McQuaid as depth be nice add? Of course. But it seems unlikely given their cap situation. I'm probably a bit older then you. I grew up out here in the Bay Area, Started watching the NY Islanders in 74, They had guys like Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom, even Butch Goring who could score but didn't take crap from other teams & if someone wanted to mess with Mike Bossy, Gillies was right there to stop things. As for Kane, He needs to quit barking at a player like Reeves & just focus on the game at hand, Trying to fight Reeves is just a waste of time & I'm sure the Sharks would rather have Kane trying to score instead taking on a guy like Reeves. Ferland would be a nice addition, but the Sharks salary's make not be able to get him. |
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Post by wallyshark on Jul 1, 2019 16:28:13 GMT -8
If you're looking for someone who can intimidate and play the game while also remaining disciplined keep looking. Brad Marchand, both Tkachuks, James Neal, Corey Perry, Tom Wilson, and plenty others have made quite the impact, quite the reputation, and quite the money in this league despite crossing the line and costing their team numerous times. I'd almost say that to be intimidating demands that you cross a line most guys won't, at least in today's game. There's no straight-up, honest, measuring up of toughness to toughness so you pick your spots where you can force your will. Poor playoffs aside Kane was everything the Sharks wanted when they got him and he turned his physical, abrasive game up a notch after getting paid. For many guys, it is usually the opposite. Is there a player(s) you have in mind? Obviously I don't think Kane and Dillon are enough for the hockey I live but comparatively around the league, it's probably on par with most teams. Would it be great to see them add a guy like Ferland to their second line, a guy who can skate, score, hit, and fight? 100% yes. Would a throwback D like McQuaid as depth be nice add? Of course. But it seems unlikely given their cap situation. I'm probably a bit older then you. I grew up out here in the Bay Area, Started watching the NY Islanders in 74, They had guys like Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom, even Butch Goring who could score but didn't take crap from other teams & if someone wanted to mess with Mike Bossy, Gillies was right there to stop things. As for Kane, He needs to quit barking at a player like Reeves & just focus on the game at hand, Trying to fight Reeves is just a waste of time & I'm sure the Sharks would rather have Kane trying to score instead taking on a guy like Reeves. Ferland would be a nice addition, but the Sharks salary's make not be able to get him. Let's not forget our very own Owen Nolan! |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 1, 2019 16:35:15 GMT -8
I'm probably a bit older then you. I grew up out here in the Bay Area, Started watching the NY Islanders in 74, They had guys like Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom, even Butch Goring who could score but didn't take crap from other teams & if someone wanted to mess with Mike Bossy, Gillies was right there to stop things. As for Kane, He needs to quit barking at a player like Reeves & just focus on the game at hand, Trying to fight Reeves is just a waste of time & I'm sure the Sharks would rather have Kane trying to score instead taking on a guy like Reeves. Ferland would be a nice addition, but the Sharks salary's make not be able to get him. Let's not forget our very own Owen Nolan! The last guy that did this quite well was Clowe. When Logan came up if you hit him he pummeled you. (He had 12 fights one year) It was nearly automatic. Now he suffers greatly for this behavior and may never be right. The league has changed to far less fights but legit hard hitting is still a major asset to have. Who knew that Brent Norris winner Burns was the most devastating hitter in the postseason for the Sharks and it was not even close. The Sharks need more guys that can cleanly/on the edge hit back. |
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Post by John96 on Jul 1, 2019 17:14:15 GMT -8
If you're looking for someone who can intimidate and play the game while also remaining disciplined keep looking. Brad Marchand, both Tkachuks, James Neal, Corey Perry, Tom Wilson, and plenty others have made quite the impact, quite the reputation, and quite the money in this league despite crossing the line and costing their team numerous times. I'd almost say that to be intimidating demands that you cross a line most guys won't, at least in today's game. There's no straight-up, honest, measuring up of toughness to toughness so you pick your spots where you can force your will. Poor playoffs aside Kane was everything the Sharks wanted when they got him and he turned his physical, abrasive game up a notch after getting paid. For many guys, it is usually the opposite. Is there a player(s) you have in mind? Obviously I don't think Kane and Dillon are enough for the hockey I live but comparatively around the league, it's probably on par with most teams. Would it be great to see them add a guy like Ferland to their second line, a guy who can skate, score, hit, and fight? 100% yes. Would a throwback D like McQuaid as depth be nice add? Of course. But it seems unlikely given their cap situation. I'm probably a bit older then you. I grew up out here in the Bay Area, Started watching the NY Islanders in 74, They had guys like Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom, even Butch Goring who could score but didn't take crap from other teams & if someone wanted to mess with Mike Bossy, Gillies was right there to stop things. As for Kane, He needs to quit barking at a player like Reeves & just focus on the game at hand, Trying to fight Reeves is just a waste of time & I'm sure the Sharks would rather have Kane trying to score instead taking on a guy like Reeves. Ferland would be a nice addition, but the Sharks salary's make not be able to get him. I'm not from the 1970s but those days are long gone. The game has changed. Who would be a Gillies or Nystrom now? I'd say Tom Wilson. How do people feel about him? I'd guess you're like me and you don't think Wilson is as dirty as everyone cries about but the guy dances the line as much as anyone and would take him on your team in a heartbeat and likely pay too much for him. Reaves got into Kane's head, Chara got under Kane's skin. But you know, for a guy who's more of a pest than a true power forward, Kane stood up and dropped his gloves like a man. Kane is more like Matthew Tkachuk than Milan Lucic but I'll guarantee you that Tkachuk never even thinks to drop them with guys like Chara and Reaves. Kane taking fights he knows (when he's thinking clearly) that can't win can be called stupid but it can be called tough too. I'd side with the latter and for all the talk about how little Kane did after that fight I don't remember much of Reaves or their fourth line doing much afterwards while the Sharks fourth line upped their game big time (thank you Goody). Maybe things don't change so much without that and the Sharks bow out in 5. You never know. Bottom line, and you alluded to this, it starts at the top. As long as Wilson is running the show, the Sharks will never be a team that pushes the pace physically. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 1, 2019 18:26:55 GMT -8
I'm probably a bit older then you. I grew up out here in the Bay Area, Started watching the NY Islanders in 74, They had guys like Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom, even Butch Goring who could score but didn't take crap from other teams & if someone wanted to mess with Mike Bossy, Gillies was right there to stop things. As for Kane, He needs to quit barking at a player like Reeves & just focus on the game at hand, Trying to fight Reeves is just a waste of time & I'm sure the Sharks would rather have Kane trying to score instead taking on a guy like Reeves. Ferland would be a nice addition, but the Sharks salary's make not be able to get him. I'm not from the 1970s but those days are long gone. The game has changed. Who would be a Gillies or Nystrom now? I'd say Tom Wilson. How do people feel about him? I'd guess you're like me and you don't think Wilson is as dirty as everyone cries about but the guy dances the line as much as anyone and would take him on your team in a heartbeat and likely pay too much for him. Reaves got into Kane's head, Chara got under Kane's skin. But you know, for a guy who's more of a pest than a true power forward, Kane stood up and dropped his gloves like a man. Kane is more like Matthew Tkachuk than Milan Lucic but I'll guarantee you that Tkachuk never even thinks to drop them with guys like Chara and Reaves. Kane taking fights he knows (when he's thinking clearly) that can't win can be called stupid but it can be called tough too. I'd side with the latter and for all the talk about how little Kane did after that fight I don't remember much of Reaves or their fourth line doing much afterwards while the Sharks fourth line upped their game big time (thank you Goody). Maybe things don't change so much without that and the Sharks bow out in 5. You never know. Bottom line, and you alluded to this, it starts at the top. As long as Wilson is running the show, the Sharks will never be a team that pushes the pace physically. I agree with your last statement. As for Wilson being like Gillies or Nystrom, Gillies is in the HOF & I don't think Wilson will get in unless he buys a ticket. Bettman has changed this league & I don't think it's for the better. When you got teams(St.Louis) running around & giving out head shots & nothing gets called or the other teams(Sharks) don't police the hits to the head. Then you got Vegas getting a apology from the league for the game 7 call, That was a joke, I'm sure the old players were not to pleased with the league doing that.. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 18:41:58 GMT -8
This might be hard to see
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 1, 2019 19:00:23 GMT -8
This might be hard to see Jumbo over Patty yet again. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 1, 2019 19:46:36 GMT -8
This might be hard to see Jumbo over Patty yet again. Some things will never change |
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