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Post by d5shark on Jun 17, 2019 9:34:36 GMT -8
Full No Movement Clause as well. Damn. I was thinking they could pull a Devin Setoguchi with a sign then trade
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Post by tastyshakes on Jun 17, 2019 9:46:15 GMT -8
Nyquist def has to be on the out. I don’t see Pavs staying. Meier for sure needs a good pay day. I think Jumbo is at a point where he’d take a massive pay cut in order to stay which you really gotta respect if he does.
This is going to be a wild offseason for the Sharks. DW is going to have to work that magic. I think what takes the biggest hit is filling out the forwards. I doubt Burns gets moved back to forward. But the bottom 6 is ugly.
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Post by d5shark on Jun 17, 2019 9:49:48 GMT -8
Nyquist def has to be on the out. I don’t see Pavs staying. Meier for sure needs a good pay day. I think Jumbo is at a point where he’d take a massive pay cut in order to stay which you really gotta respect if he does. This is going to be a wild offseason for the Sharks. DW is going to have to work that magic. I think what takes the biggest hit is filling out the forwards. I doubt Burns gets moved back to forward. But the bottom 6 is ugly. We've seen a top heavy Sharks team before. They get eaten up in the playoffs It's hard to justify massive paycuts to Pavs or Jumbo. Pavs was the leading goal scorer and almost had 40 goals. Jumbo had 50 pts. 50 pts in this league is about 5-6 mil
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Post by cjelli on Jun 17, 2019 10:04:38 GMT -8
There is going to be a lot more changes now, a busy summer. I can't believe DW pulled it off. This must be be or bust. If the Sharks falter, DW has to be kicked out. Meanwhile, Pete must be shown the door.
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Post by d5shark on Jun 17, 2019 10:09:35 GMT -8
If the Sharks falter, DW has to be kicked out. [/div] Exactly why it made sense for him to do it. He mightve been on his way out if he didn't get it done after what they gave up to get EK65
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Post by redbeard on Jun 17, 2019 10:17:13 GMT -8
Well, at least EK65 is accustomed to losing. Sharks are going to run out of money long before they run out of lines to fill up. Not everybody worth a shit is going to play for peanuts.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 10:50:50 GMT -8
Well, at least EK65 is accustomed to losing. Sharks are going to run out of money long before they run out of lines to fill up. Not everybody worth a shit is going to play for peanuts.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 17, 2019 11:10:32 GMT -8
Even with a healthy EK65 I dont see this team winning the cup. Vegas and Blues are very bad match ups and the sharks need depth guys that can hit back and have skill. Gus actually fit in quite well here but I doubt the sharks can afford him and of course he is not a physical player either.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 11:48:06 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 11:52:43 GMT -8
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 17, 2019 11:56:42 GMT -8
Fucking terrible song. Please stop that!
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 17, 2019 12:05:57 GMT -8
Even with a healthy EK65 I dont see this team winning the cup. Vegas and Blues are very bad match ups and the sharks need depth guys that can hit back and have skill. Gus actually fit in quite well here but I doubt the sharks can afford him and of course he is not a physical player either. Vegas is in a cap nightmare right now as they are already over the cap and have to sign William Karlsson. St. Louis now has to deal with several big RFAs: Barbashev, Sundquist, Blais, Edmondson and Binnington and Maroon is a UFA. They have only $18 million in cap space to get them all signed.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 17, 2019 12:23:41 GMT -8
Even with a healthy EK65 I dont see this team winning the cup. Vegas and Blues are very bad match ups and the sharks need depth guys that can hit back and have skill. Gus actually fit in quite well here but I doubt the sharks can afford him and of course he is not a physical player either. Vegas is in a cap nightmare right now as they are already over the cap and have to sign William Karlsson. St. Louis now has to deal with several big RFAs: Barbashev, Sundquist, Blais, Edmondson and Binnington and Maroon is a UFA. They have only $18 million in cap space to get them all signed. True, they will have to dump and adjust but the sharks to me are just not a rough enough team to get through. COL/CAL and SJS have great talent but playoff hockey you also have to win the long war of attrition. Not calling for head hunters but more legit hitters that can play.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 12:45:11 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Jun 17, 2019 12:52:12 GMT -8
I wonder if the games against Vegas will feature the full roster of SJ Barracuda for precautionary reasons.
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Post by John96 on Jun 17, 2019 13:59:26 GMT -8
Not a lot of room left but moving the likes of Braun, Melker, and Sorensen for draft picks (not good ones though) is likely doable and would save around 7M. I think trading Vlasic would actually be a smart move but that NMC it's doubtful DW can pull that off.
Biggest thing now is that DeBoer needs to utilize his lineup better and manage minutes for Karlsson, Vlasic, and Burns.
Resigning Meier and Labanc is big but I definitely think Wilson has worked some magic in extending RFAs at team-friendly deals (Couture, Hertl, Vlasic, and Dillon come to mind). They each earned raises, they're the future. Got to pay them or hope they get an offer sheet and you get gifted some good draft capital.
Now that I say though, Labanc is probably the perfect target for an OS. Under the radar a bit but has flashed big time promise and you could probably pinpoint a number that'd just force a cap-stricken team like the Sharks to walk away and take the picks because it'd make everything else he has to do so much more difficult. Throwing big money at the likes of Rantanen, Marner, or Point is going to get the headlines but just as likely as you stealing a young superstar, you overpay a kid and put him in a difficult spot early in his career and bankrupt your future.
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Post by LordNelson on Jun 17, 2019 14:17:27 GMT -8
More feeling so-so about EK65 signing than thrilled. He's an exceptional talent when healthy, but very expensive! You can't win the Cup with just 4-5 great players. Today's Cap is more about leveling out the team with 4 great/strong lines.
Also, don't we now owe Ottawa another 2nd rounder since DW has re-signed EK?
EK cost SJ a lot, but that's also what writers said just after Sharks obtained Brent Burns years ago. we'll see.
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Post by LordNelson on Jun 17, 2019 14:39:43 GMT -8
Not a lot of room left but moving the likes of Braun, Melker, and Sorensen for draft picks (not good ones though) is likely doable and would save around 7M. I think trading Vlasic would actually be a smart move but that NMC it's doubtful DW can pull that off. Biggest thing now is that DeBoer needs to utilize his lineup better and manage minutes for Karlsson, Vlasic, and Burns. Resigning Meier and Labanc is big but I definitely think Wilson has worked some magic in extending RFAs at team-friendly deals (Couture, Hertl, Vlasic, and Dillon come to mind). They each earned raises, they're the future. Got to pay them or hope they get an offer sheet and you get gifted some good draft capital. Now that I say though, Labanc is probably the perfect target for an OS. Under the radar a bit but has flashed big time promise and you could probably pinpoint a number that'd just force a cap-stricken team like the Sharks to walk away and take the picks because it'd make everything else he has to do so much more difficult. Throwing big money at the likes of Rantanen, Marner, or Point is going to get the headlines but just as likely as you stealing a young superstar, you overpay a kid and put him in a difficult spot early in his career and bankrupt your future. with the minutes Burns and Karlsson will log on the SJ blueline, it probably could be smart this summer to move either one of Vlasic or Braun. More than draft picks, I think getting beefy depth for 3rd & 4th lines now would be a priority. Lose Donskoi, Melker, Gambrel, maybe Goody and get some bigger shoulders into the bottom six. I think bottom line depth became a problem in bothe the regular season and playoffs. I could see DW making one or two sizeable trades when GMs gather for the draft. SJs amateur draft team seems to have this summer off. Nothing really dripping with talent at #91 and beyond. Very possible to improve the team with the right 'role' trades.
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jun 17, 2019 15:12:32 GMT -8
Not a lot of room left but moving the likes of Braun, Melker, and Sorensen for draft picks (not good ones though) is likely doable and would save around 7M. I think trading Vlasic would actually be a smart move but that NMC it's doubtful DW can pull that off. Biggest thing now is that DeBoer needs to utilize his lineup better and manage minutes for Karlsson, Vlasic, and Burns. Resigning Meier and Labanc is big but I definitely think Wilson has worked some magic in extending RFAs at team-friendly deals (Couture, Hertl, Vlasic, and Dillon come to mind). They each earned raises, they're the future. Got to pay them or hope they get an offer sheet and you get gifted some good draft capital. Now that I say though, Labanc is probably the perfect target for an OS. Under the radar a bit but has flashed big time promise and you could probably pinpoint a number that'd just force a cap-stricken team like the Sharks to walk away and take the picks because it'd make everything else he has to do so much more difficult. Throwing big money at the likes of Rantanen, Marner, or Point is going to get the headlines but just as likely as you stealing a young superstar, you overpay a kid and put him in a difficult spot early in his career and bankrupt your future. I wondered if Vlasic wound't ok a trade back home to Montreal. That would be the only team I could see him to be willing to waive his NMC to go to. If they can't trade Vlasic then Braun and possibly Dillon could be traded. I don't like the idea of trading Dillon because he is one of the few guys on the team who will play physical and drop the gloves if necessary. The Sharks need someone besides Kane to be willing to go after the other teams tough guys.
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Post by Badger on Jun 17, 2019 16:14:39 GMT -8
This has me more excited and interested in the Sharks than anything that’s happened since about the Owen Nolan trade.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 16:50:31 GMT -8
This has me more excited and interested in the Sharks than anything that’s happened since about the Owen Nolan trade. 😄😄😄
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 17, 2019 17:02:51 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Jun 17, 2019 17:39:03 GMT -8
That's a great job by Cheveldayoff.
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Post by mk391419 on Jun 17, 2019 18:10:51 GMT -8
Not a lot of room left but moving the likes of Braun, Melker, and Sorensen for draft picks (not good ones though) is likely doable and would save around 7M. I think trading Vlasic would actually be a smart move but that NMC it's doubtful DW can pull that off. Biggest thing now is that DeBoer needs to utilize his lineup better and manage minutes for Karlsson, Vlasic, and Burns. Resigning Meier and Labanc is big but I definitely think Wilson has worked some magic in extending RFAs at team-friendly deals (Couture, Hertl, Vlasic, and Dillon come to mind). They each earned raises, they're the future. Got to pay them or hope they get an offer sheet and you get gifted some good draft capital. Now that I say though, Labanc is probably the perfect target for an OS. Under the radar a bit but has flashed big time promise and you could probably pinpoint a number that'd just force a cap-stricken team like the Sharks to walk away and take the picks because it'd make everything else he has to do so much more difficult. Throwing big money at the likes of Rantanen, Marner, or Point is going to get the headlines but just as likely as you stealing a young superstar, you overpay a kid and put him in a difficult spot early in his career and bankrupt your future. I wondered if Vlasic wound't ok a trade back home to Montreal. That would be the only team I could see him to be willing to waive his NMC to go to. If they can't trade Vlasic then Braun and possibly Dillon could be traded. I don't like the idea of trading Dillon because he is one of the few guys on the team who will play physical and drop the gloves if necessary. The Sharks need someone besides Kane to be willing to go after the other teams tough guys. His wife seems to spend a lot more time in Canada than in San Jose.
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Post by mk391419 on Jun 17, 2019 18:11:54 GMT -8
I have really mixed feelings about this. I really didn't think it was going to happen.
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jun 17, 2019 18:25:14 GMT -8
Thats all for Trouba? DW should have pulled a Hoffman flip easily. I blame Karlsson
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Post by Marbles on Jun 17, 2019 18:35:55 GMT -8
Nice contract you fucking bitch!
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Post by Marbles on Jun 17, 2019 19:24:36 GMT -8
Even with a healthy EK65 I dont see this team winning the cup. Vegas and Blues are very bad match ups and the sharks need depth guys that can hit back and have skill. Gus actually fit in quite well here but I doubt the sharks can afford him and of course he is not a physical player either. Vegas is in a cap nightmare right now as they are already over the cap and have to sign William Karlsson. St. Louis now has to deal with several big RFAs: Barbashev, Sundquist, Blais, Edmondson and Binnington and Maroon is a UFA. They have only $18 million in cap space to get them all signed. Offersheet barbashev and then snatch Binnington when they match. The old Sloth swaperoo.
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Post by cjelli on Jun 17, 2019 19:28:49 GMT -8
Vegas is in a cap nightmare right now as they are already over the cap and have to sign William Karlsson. St. Louis now has to deal with several big RFAs: Barbashev, Sundquist, Blais, Edmondson and Binnington and Maroon is a UFA. They have only $18 million in cap space to get them all signed. Offersheet barbashev and then snatch Binnington when they match. The old Sloth swaperoo. What are you going to do with Jones?
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Post by oaklandshark on Jun 17, 2019 19:34:18 GMT -8
If..he can stay healthy..its ok deal
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