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Post by John96 on Dec 8, 2019 16:24:12 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy.
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Post by Badger on Dec 8, 2019 16:31:44 GMT -8
You know things are bad when the announcers are talking about how much better the Sharks are playing than last game and they are losing 3-1. Well, they held them under seven. |
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Post by cjelli on Dec 8, 2019 16:33:13 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy. Who do you want, Darryl Sutter?  |
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Post by cjelli on Dec 8, 2019 16:39:49 GMT -8
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Post by Marbles on Dec 8, 2019 16:44:52 GMT -8
Have the Panthers had a sellout ever? I feel like every game i've seen for 15 years the place was half empty Half empty is a fucking charitable take. The first 5 rows behind both benches are empty. Also, glad I began drinking before I even knew a game was on tonight. This is fucking embarassing. No Simek no shot. We are fucked. Jones needs to be offloaded. Deboerre needs to be offloaded. Try to grab a 3rd line center that can contribute. Pick up the pieces with a new HC. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 8, 2019 16:49:41 GMT -8
Other than bad goalie play, sloppy defense and poor five on five play the sharks are doing just ok.
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 8, 2019 16:51:39 GMT -8
You know things are bad when the announcers are talking about how much better the Sharks are playing than last game and they are losing 3-1. Well, they held them under seven. Yay? |
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Post by cjelli on Dec 8, 2019 16:52:26 GMT -8
Other than bad goalie play, sloppy defense and poor five on five play the sharks are doing just ok. So, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? |
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 8, 2019 16:54:37 GMT -8
Other than bad goalie play, sloppy defense and poor five on five play the sharks are doing just ok. So, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Exactly. |
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Post by sharkhaywood on Dec 8, 2019 18:51:06 GMT -8
Fire DeBoer, promote Boughner, bench Jones, call up Korenar, etc. Bring in Babcock so he can chew out these pansies, Wilson won't do it though because he wants a coach as soft as the team he put together Fire his ass too!!! |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Dec 8, 2019 19:02:25 GMT -8
And this is after they lead the NHL with 11 wins in November...the Sharks need some Prozac. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Dec 8, 2019 19:04:04 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy. I never said he was the greatest coach ever, But he won't put up with this soft bunch of candy a$$e$ like DeBoer & Wilson do. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Dec 8, 2019 19:05:17 GMT -8
Fire DeBoer, promote Boughner, bench Jones, call up Korenar, etc. Bring in Babcock so he can chew out these pansies, Wilson won't do it though because he wants a coach as soft as the team he put together Not trying to argue...but do you really think chewing out Thornton is going to make a difference? IMO, the Sharks troubles are way beyond an ass chewing. |
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Post by John96 on Dec 8, 2019 19:08:48 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy. Who do you want, Darryl Sutter? Don’t know but Babcock gives me pause. Plus word is he probably won’t come back to coaching this season. Also his contract presents a problem for whoever wants to hire him. Forget the details but TSN broke it down. |
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Post by John96 on Dec 8, 2019 19:10:06 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy. I never said he was the greatest coach ever, But he won't put up with this soft bunch of candy a$$e$ like DeBoer & Wilson do. That’s what they said when he went to Toronto. |
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Post by LordNelson on Dec 9, 2019 0:39:58 GMT -8
Fire DeBoer, promote Boughner, bench Jones, call up Korenar, etc. Boughner is the D-coach, who hasn't done wonders in Florida as well. Hire Babcock.
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli?  |
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Post by cjelli on Dec 9, 2019 6:50:12 GMT -8
Boughner is the D-coach, who hasn't done wonders in Florida as well. Hire Babcock.
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli? I think the only team Roy may agree to coach in the future are the Habs. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 9, 2019 7:18:30 GMT -8
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli? I think the only team Roy may agree to coach in the future are the Habs. Not the Roy LN was referring to..... |
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Post by cjelli on Dec 9, 2019 7:54:24 GMT -8
I think the only team Roy may agree to coach in the future are the Habs. Not the Roy LN was referring to..... Oh that one? In that case I'll cancel my NHL subscription.
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 9, 2019 12:06:02 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Dec 9, 2019 12:31:55 GMT -8
Hoffman wanted to go but Karlsson declined his invitation |
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 9, 2019 13:07:07 GMT -8
Hoffman wanted to go but Karlsson declined his invitation So Hoffmans then GF is accused of Harassing the Karlsson's. First time on the ice together and Hoffman wants to fight Karlsson. |
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Post by Fugazi on Dec 9, 2019 13:44:16 GMT -8
Hoffman wanted to go but Karlsson declined his invitation So Hoffmans then GF is accused of Harassing the Karlsson's. First time on the ice together and Hoffman wants to fight Karlsson. Yep |
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Post by Marbles on Dec 9, 2019 14:33:38 GMT -8
Babcock? Guy hasn’t won a playoff series since 2013. This thing that he’s the greatest coach out there is crazy. I never said he was the greatest coach ever, But he won't put up with this soft bunch of candy a$$e$ like DeBoer & Wilson do. He's also now being talked about for causing Johan fucking Franzen mental health issues with his abuse on the bench. I get that we joke about needing a harder nosed coach, but I think these recent stories plus his track record of 1st round fuck ups with what should be a decently solid Leafs squad a couple years running is a no from me. |
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Post by Marbles on Dec 9, 2019 14:38:45 GMT -8
Boughner is the D-coach, who hasn't done wonders in Florida as well. Hire Babcock.
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli? To me the biggest issue seems to be that our roster so beyond lever pulling. I have an outside hope that a drastically different system may click with the roster as currently signed (to me this puts Boughner out too - I expect his strategy is too similar to Deboere). So outside of literally trading half the roster away for a new look which I don't think happens until the summer, I think you need to go with a new coach and hopefully start the rebuild process with him in place and a half a season under his belt to assess the current squad. What really bothers me about the squad in no particular order - - Our top 6 guys on paper mostly don't mesh with each other, or at least not in a way to give us flexibility throughout the top 9. - We have fucking Goodrow in the top 3. That is a testament to how fucked our forward corps is. - Jumbo is done outside of maybe a 4th line center role - even there he is most likely a worse option than a kid with legs. - Simek can't remain healthy - Jones and Dell are both fucking awful - we need to find our goalie drafting mojo again (one of the Florida broadcasters literally called us out as the only team in the league with a tandem of guys that weren't even drafted...) - Clearly our rookies and prospects are nowhere near ready to begin contributing in anything above maybe a 4th line role - what the fuck Doug |
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Post by Marbles on Dec 9, 2019 14:39:31 GMT -8
Hoffman wanted to go but Karlsson declined his invitation So Hoffmans then GF is accused of Harassing the Karlsson's. First time on the ice together and Hoffman wants to fight Karlsson. Seems like some Canadian douchebaggery here. |
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Post by LordNelson on Dec 9, 2019 14:48:23 GMT -8
So Hoffmans then GF is accused of Harassing the Karlsson's. First time on the ice together and Hoffman wants to fight Karlsson. Seems like some Canadian douchebaggery here. Or maybe Hoffman finally had a chance to say 'Congrats' on his new baby girl..? |
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Post by danvilleshark on Dec 9, 2019 15:03:53 GMT -8
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli? To me the biggest issue seems to be that our roster so beyond lever pulling. I have an outside hope that a drastically different system may click with the roster as currently signed (to me this puts Boughner out too - I expect his strategy is too similar to Deboere). So outside of literally trading half the roster away for a new look which I don't think happens until the summer, I think you need to go with a new coach and hopefully start the rebuild process with him in place and a half a season under his belt to assess the current squad. What really bothers me about the squad in no particular order - - Our top 6 guys on paper mostly don't mesh with each other, or at least not in a way to give us flexibility throughout the top 9. - We have fucking Goodrow in the top 3. That is a testament to how fucked our forward corps is. - Jumbo is done outside of maybe a 4th line center role - even there he is most likely a worse option than a kid with legs. - Simek can't remain healthy - Jones and Dell are both fucking awful - we need to find our goalie drafting mojo again (one of the Florida broadcasters literally called us out as the only team in the league with a tandem of guys that weren't even drafted...) - Clearly our rookies and prospects are nowhere near ready to begin contributing in anything above maybe a 4th line role - what the fuck Doug I dont want Babcock here. His best days and the game in general are behind him. Would rather see a younger guy come to San Jose. Q would have been good or even Torts but these are not options and they are not young either. Goodrow is one of the few guys playing above expectations. Burns has been terrible. Jumbo is old and should not play on a back to back. They long ago took him off PK. Timo is a big disappointment so far. Plenty of under performers on team. The D has been terrible and so has the goalie play. Bring up the kid from the Barracuda already! |
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Post by John96 on Dec 9, 2019 15:20:21 GMT -8
Can't believe we're already taking relacement coaches at this point, but certain games (Florida) make it feel close. Hoped there could be a few other levers pulled first. Like - start a different FKN goalie, Peety. Stir your roster. At least go down swinging! actually Boughner is a perfect suit for the 'interim coach' fill-in, until sharks find long term hire. That would be the likely path. Or what if DW brought up Roy as interim coach, cjelli? To me the biggest issue seems to be that our roster so beyond lever pulling. I have an outside hope that a drastically different system may click with the roster as currently signed (to me this puts Boughner out too - I expect his strategy is too similar to Deboere). So outside of literally trading half the roster away for a new look which I don't think happens until the summer, I think you need to go with a new coach and hopefully start the rebuild process with him in place and a half a season under his belt to assess the current squad. What really bothers me about the squad in no particular order - - Our top 6 guys on paper mostly don't mesh with each other, or at least not in a way to give us flexibility throughout the top 9. - We have fucking Goodrow in the top 3. That is a testament to how fucked our forward corps is. - Jumbo is done outside of maybe a 4th line center role - even there he is most likely a worse option than a kid with legs. - Simek can't remain healthy - Jones and Dell are both fucking awful - we need to find our goalie drafting mojo again (one of the Florida broadcasters literally called us out as the only team in the league with a tandem of guys that weren't even drafted...) - Clearly our rookies and prospects are nowhere near ready to begin contributing in anything above maybe a 4th line role - what the fuck Doug Agree the premise here. System is just not working and I think opponents have caught on and right now they're not talented enough to beat you consistently if you know what's coming. They're a mess in the defensive zone, guys don't pick up assignments on time, lanes are left wide open, and puck control is worrisome at best. Offensively there's no creativity. It's a constant cycle down low, pucks up high, funnel shots to the net, not many A+ opportunities generated. Goaltending is what it is, not getting much help but the numbers don't lie, it's just not getting the job done. They also have a knack for not getting stops early in games and forcing the team to play from behind, which doesn't help anyone. Overall they still lack a clear identity. More slow than fast, more grind than skill, and more soft than physical. I mentioned to promote Boughner but that was out of exasperation, not a serious suggestion. If they want change, they need to clear out the entire coaching staff. I don't know who to get to replace them but if you're serious about winning, you find the guy(s). |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Dec 9, 2019 15:31:20 GMT -8
Bring in Babcock so he can chew out these pansies, Wilson won't do it though because he wants a coach as soft as the team he put together Not trying to argue...but do you really think chewing out Thornton is going to make a difference? IMO, the Sharks troubles are way beyond an ass chewing. Thornton NO, He's done anyway. But these other HIGH PAID Players Like Burns Who seems to be chasing the puck around like a dog, and teaching the young ones like Hertl who has his back turned away from the player coming in behind him for a tap in goal against Tampa, Then he looks like he didn't know the guy was standing there. TEACHING, TEACHING & If they don't get it the press box is a good place for them, maybe get their attention. Sorry but after watching this crap since day 1, I'm be on irrated. |
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