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Post by Fugazi on Jul 2, 2019 11:41:37 GMT -8
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Post by clarkro2 on Jul 2, 2019 11:51:57 GMT -8
Timo pass the salt. No problem. Now that can be reviewed going forward. I do like how the goaltender cannot freeze the puck on a dump in for a line change. I would like clear instructions as to what is goalie interference because Pavs got called for BS. |
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Post by LordNelson on Jul 2, 2019 12:01:51 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing.
It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 2, 2019 12:09:45 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Jul 2, 2019 12:18:10 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. Because it's either Heed or Prout, I guess, both are RD. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 2, 2019 12:20:47 GMT -8
For those of you that follow John here take a close look at what Prout was reacting to before this fight started. Gudas (John hates him) takes a cheap shot at a team mate, Prout nails him and then stands up to answer for it. This is exactly what the sharks need. Well done John. |
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Post by LordNelson on Jul 2, 2019 12:34:37 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. Because it's either Heed or Prout, I guess, both are RD. you just know in those first opening regular season games with Vegas, Gallant will have Ryan Reaves in his lineup so DeBoer should go with Prout to open the season and we'll see where things go from there. I'd expect fireworks and a team playing a little more physical when Prout is in the lineup over Heed. Depth on Left Defense now fades quick with only Vlasic, Dillon, Simek, Middleton. |
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Post by gilfan on Jul 2, 2019 12:34:51 GMT -8
For those of you that follow John here take a close look at what Prout was reacting to before this fight started. Gudas (John hates him) takes a cheap shot at a team mate, Prout nails him and then stands up to answer for it. This is exactly what the sharks need. Well done John. OK that's awesome, that's exactly who we need |
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Post by cjelli on Jul 2, 2019 12:43:19 GMT -8
Because it's either Heed or Prout, I guess, both are RD. you just know in those first opening regular season games with Vegas, Gallant will have Ryan Reaves in his lineup so DeBoer should go with Prout to open the season and we'll see where things go from there. I'd expect fireworks and a team playing a little more physical when Prout is in the lineup over Heed. Depth on Left Defense now fades quick with only Vlasic, Dillon, Simek, Middleton. The depth on the RD: Karlsson, Burns, nothing.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 2, 2019 12:47:27 GMT -8
you just know in those first opening regular season games with Vegas, Gallant will have Ryan Reaves in his lineup so DeBoer should go with Prout to open the season and we'll see where things go from there. I'd expect fireworks and a team playing a little more physical when Prout is in the lineup over Heed. Depth on Left Defense now fades quick with only Vlasic, Dillon, Simek, Middleton. The depth on the RD: Karlsson, Burns, nothing.
Pete is going to play two goalies in this situation. |
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Post by LordNelson on Jul 2, 2019 12:51:10 GMT -8
you just know in those first opening regular season games with Vegas, Gallant will have Ryan Reaves in his lineup so DeBoer should go with Prout to open the season and we'll see where things go from there. I'd expect fireworks and a team playing a little more physical when Prout is in the lineup over Heed. Depth on Left Defense now fades quick with only Vlasic, Dillon, Simek, Middleton. The depth on the RD: Karlsson, Burns, nothing.
Karlsson & Burns = 60 minutes of ice time. Let's all toast to speedy recoveries and good in-season health! |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 2, 2019 13:15:23 GMT -8
The NHL accepts no liability for brain injuries suffered by Steve Montador, who was posthumously diagnosed with CTE, per legal documents acquired by TSN’s Rick Westhead.
In a response to a lawsuit from Montador’s family the NHL wrote:
“Any injury or damage sustained by [Montador] was caused, in whole or in part, by [Montador's] own lack of due care and fault, and/or by pre-existing conditions; and/or the lack of due care of others for whom the NHL has no responsibility or control.”
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Post by John96 on Jul 2, 2019 13:58:49 GMT -8
For those of you that follow John here take a close look at what Prout was reacting to before this fight started. Gudas (John hates him) takes a cheap shot at a team mate, Prout nails him and then stands up to answer for it. This is exactly what the sharks need. Well done John. Exactly. And you know what else I like about it? We all know Gudas will not drop the gloves with Prout so Prout doesn't bother asking, he just lays him out which then turns the tables on the Flyers to answer the bell. Interesting how that works. Maybe it's not as clean and tidy as people would like but it is effective. |
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Post by John96 on Jul 2, 2019 14:01:52 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. It was pretty clear in the playoffs that DeBoer was in Ryan's corner. How little he was used probably damaged his confidence to a point where you might as well let him go for his own sake as well as yours. The difference from Ryan to Heed/Prout is negligible in my opinion. More offense from Heed and more toughness from Prout. Put it together with what'll likely be expected from that position and I'm pleased with the change. |
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Post by cjelli on Jul 2, 2019 14:20:50 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. It was pretty clear in the playoffs that DeBoer was in Ryan's corner. How little he was used probably damaged his confidence to a point where you might as well let him go for his own sake as well as yours. The difference from Ryan to Heed/Prout is negligible in my opinion. More offense from Heed and more toughness from Prout. Put it together with what'll likely be expected from that position and I'm pleased with the change. I think Heed is a better hockey player than Prout, but I also think he sits the first two games of the season if everyone is healthy.
Reaves vs. Prout, who wins, what do you think?
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Post by wallyshark on Jul 2, 2019 14:41:20 GMT -8
The depth on the RD: Karlsson, Burns, nothing.
Karlsson & Burns = 60 minutes of ice time. Let's all toast to speedy recoveries and good in-season health! Lets just hope EK65 is healthy. I was just thinking, the Sharks signed Karlsson for 1.5 mil a year more then Ottowa offered him. Not a bad deal if he's healthy. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 2, 2019 15:18:19 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. Why not have Haley back on the 4th line & when Vegas or whoever wants to start something we can have a whole slapshot scene, About time the Sharks got some balls |
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Post by John96 on Jul 2, 2019 16:16:39 GMT -8
It was pretty clear in the playoffs that DeBoer was in Ryan's corner. How little he was used probably damaged his confidence to a point where you might as well let him go for his own sake as well as yours. The difference from Ryan to Heed/Prout is negligible in my opinion. More offense from Heed and more toughness from Prout. Put it together with what'll likely be expected from that position and I'm pleased with the change. I think Heed is a better hockey player than Prout, but I also think he sits the first two games of the season if everyone is healthy.
Reaves vs. Prout, who wins, what do you think?
Reaves probably has the edge. Prout is strong though. If he can get inside turn the fight more strategic than wide-open swinging than he probably stands a better chance. Reaves is a homerun hitter, he just throws haymakers and tends to overwhelm guys as much as anything. Prout has been through some battles though so he can hang in there and protect himself through Reaves' onslaught. Prout has some power in his hands, KO'd Lucic, dropped Boulton, and dinged up a few other guys too. Win or lose though the Sharks got a guy who'll stand up to Reaves and gives them a chance at neutralizing that part of VGK's game. All that said, Prout can't skate like Reaves can to be that consistent physical factor. But he is a heavyweight and an enforcer, old school. Not above crossing the line if he feels he needs to, something this team hasn't had much. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 2, 2019 16:30:43 GMT -8
Here we go
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Post by jackalope on Jul 2, 2019 17:39:56 GMT -8
I think Heed is a better hockey player than Prout, but I also think he sits the first two games of the season if everyone is healthy.
Reaves vs. Prout, who wins, what do you think?
Reaves probably has the edge. Prout is strong though. If he can get inside turn the fight more strategic than wide-open swinging than he probably stands a better chance. Reaves is a homerun hitter, he just throws haymakers and tends to overwhelm guys as much as anything. Prout has been through some battles though so he can hang in there and protect himself through Reaves' onslaught. Prout has some power in his hands, KO'd Lucic, dropped Boulton, and dinged up a few other guys too. Win or lose though the Sharks got a guy who'll stand up to Reaves and gives them a chance at neutralizing that part of VGK's game. All that said, Prout can't skate like Reaves can to be that consistent physical factor. But he is a heavyweight and an enforcer, old school. Not above crossing the line if he feels he needs to, something this team hasn't had much. Reeves flat out refused to fight Haley. I dont know if he could refuse a fight when every shift he takes has Haley or Prout out against him lol. Reeves is a joke, wants to be the "tough" guy until its time to fight a tough guy. |
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Post by d5shark on Jul 2, 2019 19:41:47 GMT -8
One of these guys was am All Star MVP.
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 2, 2019 21:04:09 GMT -8
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Post by LordNelson on Jul 3, 2019 0:27:32 GMT -8
this IS interesting, Ducks GM Bob Murray just hired coach Dallas Eakins two weeks ago and now he brings in his old Chicago buddy to ‘advise’? I’d be a little uneasy now if I was Eakins. He’s got a real challenge trying to build a respectable W-L record by the season’s Christmas bell with that roster. Could Darryl become the first to Head coach all three California teams? |
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Post by LordNelson on Jul 3, 2019 1:01:12 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. It was pretty clear in the playoffs that DeBoer was in Ryan's corner. How little he was used probably damaged his confidence to a point where you might as well let him go for his own sake as well as yours. The difference from Ryan to Heed/Prout is negligible in my opinion. More offense from Heed and more toughness from Prout. Put it together with what'll likely be expected from that position and I'm pleased with the change. The NHL game moves so fast now it really is important for every Dman to play his strong side so he can rim the puck quickly up the wall or make a crisp forehand pass up the middle; that’s why I fret in here about L and R blueliners. I personally think Ryan was better than Heed and was more useful to SJ roster as a left shot. and pretty sure JR game experience is more than Heed’s by a factor of two. With Burns & 65 soaking up majority ice time on the R, Heed now has to also battle with Prout for the rare shifts that remain. Prout sounds pretty tough in July. Cant help remembering exactly two years ago when this entire board was excited (including me) about DW signing Brandon Bollig as our new ‘tough guy’. What an impact Bollig had in SJ, eh? 😄. Propbably all Roy’s fault. |
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Post by cjelli on Jul 3, 2019 5:43:32 GMT -8
It was pretty clear in the playoffs that DeBoer was in Ryan's corner. How little he was used probably damaged his confidence to a point where you might as well let him go for his own sake as well as yours. The difference from Ryan to Heed/Prout is negligible in my opinion. More offense from Heed and more toughness from Prout. Put it together with what'll likely be expected from that position and I'm pleased with the change. The NHL game moves so fast now it really is important for every Dman to play his strong side so he can rim the puck quickly up the wall or make a crisp forehand pass up the middle; that’s why I fret in here about L and R blueliners. I personally think Ryan was better than Heed and was more useful to SJ roster as a left shot. and pretty sure JR game experience is more than Heed’s by a factor of two. With Burns & 65 soaking up majority ice time on the R, Heed now has to also battle with Prout for the rare shifts that remain. Prout sounds pretty tough in July. Cant help remembering exactly two years ago when this entire board was excited (including me) about DW signing Brandon Bollig as our new ‘tough guy’. What an impact Bollig had in SJ, eh? 😄. Propbably all Roy’s fault. Bollig was signed at minimum two-way. Prout is signed for Min+100, one-way. Arguably, a difference. |
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Post by John96 on Jul 3, 2019 6:39:36 GMT -8
The NHL game moves so fast now it really is important for every Dman to play his strong side so he can rim the puck quickly up the wall or make a crisp forehand pass up the middle; that’s why I fret in here about L and R blueliners. I personally think Ryan was better than Heed and was more useful to SJ roster as a left shot. and pretty sure JR game experience is more than Heed’s by a factor of two. With Burns & 65 soaking up majority ice time on the R, Heed now has to also battle with Prout for the rare shifts that remain. Prout sounds pretty tough in July. Cant help remembering exactly two years ago when this entire board was excited (including me) about DW signing Brandon Bollig as our new ‘tough guy’. What an impact Bollig had in SJ, eh? 😄. Propbably all Roy’s fault. Bollig was signed at minimum two-way. Prout is signed for Min+100, one-way. Arguably, a difference. Thanks, I figured it was one-way but wasn’t sure. That says more than the salary about how they’ll use him. And for a quick reference; YT Brandon Bollig vs Chris Neil and then Prout vs Neil for a quick comparison. Spoiler, it’s apples and oranges. |
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Post by Badger on Jul 3, 2019 7:26:29 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. |
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Post by clarkro2 on Jul 3, 2019 8:43:03 GMT -8
The NHL accepts no liability for brain injuries suffered by Steve Montador, who was posthumously diagnosed with CTE, per legal documents acquired by TSN’s Rick Westhead. In a response to a lawsuit from Montador’s family the NHL wrote: “Any injury or damage sustained by [Montador] was caused, in whole or in part, by [Montador's] own lack of due care and fault, and/or by pre-existing conditions; and/or the lack of due care of others for whom the NHL has no responsibility or control.” Sorry but I like this messaging. Just like millenuals walking off a cliff due to looking at their phones. |
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Post by clarkro2 on Jul 3, 2019 8:45:04 GMT -8
Now the Dalton Prout signing is a good DW move from a few dimensions, starting with the sandpaper thing. It makes Michael Haley dispensable (Good luck, Haler!) and Sharks get a large new Scud missile on the bench that can actually play some 6-7 D minutes for you in that Joakim Ryan role. He's a big body that can noticeably push back down low & front of net (unlike Braun). DW now has something in front of Dillon, Kane, Jumbo, Goodrow to absorb battle punches. He'll probably healthy scratch often but if he plays 45 games, good signing. But D-man Prout shoots right (crowded side) so I'm again scratching my head why DW kept Tim Heed over Joakim Ryan. Why not have Haley back on the 4th line & when Vegas or whoever wants to start something we can have a whole slapshot scene, About time the Sharks got some balls Putting on the foil coach!!!! |
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Post by clarkro2 on Jul 3, 2019 8:52:24 GMT -8
You have to be kidding me about the upside of Joakim Ryan. He has offensive potential but a defensive liability that got exposed multiple times. D is now solid providing EK65 surgery...now we need to fix bottom 6. I want LeBanc running the top PP unit and then Jumbo on 2nd Unit.
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