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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 21:39:26 GMT -8
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Stan Bowman informed USA Hockey late this afternoon that he is stepping down as general manager of the 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team.
“In light of what’s happened today, I think it’s in the best interests of USA Hockey for me to step aside,” said Bowman. “I’m grateful to have been selected and wish our team the very best in Beijing.”
“We thank Stan for all his efforts,” said Pat Kelleher, executive director of USA Hockey. “He’s been a major contributor to American hockey for a long time.”
USA Hockey expects to announce a replacement for Bowman in the near future
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 21:40:31 GMT -8
"I'd like to talk about Matthews for a minute," Cherry started. "The leading scorer last year, the leading scorer of the whole league last year, Rocket Richard. Now everything was going good he used to be dressed, I'd have to say him and Lundqvist were 1 and 2 in getting dressed, pretty sharp guys.
"Evidently it was pretty tough for him to get dressed, $10-million and he can't get dressed? So, you see him coming in now, he used to come in with [Mitch] Marner all the time, now he comes in alone, and you can't say he's a slob, it [looks] like he's going to a barbecue or something like that, and I just don't understand it."
Don Cherry on his latest podcast.
LMAO
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Post by cjelli on Oct 27, 2021 2:43:59 GMT -8
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Stan Bowman informed USA Hockey late this afternoon that he is stepping down as general manager of the 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team. “In light of what’s happened today, I think it’s in the best interests of USA Hockey for me to step aside,” said Bowman. “I’m grateful to have been selected and wish our team the very best in Beijing.” “We thank Stan for all his efforts,” said Pat Kelleher, executive director of USA Hockey. “He’s been a major contributor to American hockey for a long time.” USA Hockey expects to announce a replacement for Bowman in the near future Now it's time for USA Hockey to find some moral compass, and to step down and not be part of the Beijing games altogether.
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Post by galtfan on Oct 27, 2021 5:10:50 GMT -8
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Stan Bowman informed USA Hockey late this afternoon that he is stepping down as general manager of the 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team. “In light of what’s happened today, I think it’s in the best interests of USA Hockey for me to step aside,” said Bowman. “I’m grateful to have been selected and wish our team the very best in Beijing.” “We thank Stan for all his efforts,” said Pat Kelleher, executive director of USA Hockey. “He’s been a major contributor to American hockey for a long time.” USA Hockey expects to announce a replacement for Bowman in the near future Now it's time for USA Hockey to find some moral compass, and to step down and not be part of the Beijing games altogether. I think the USA Olympic team as a whole should boycott these games, but we al know that won't happen.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 8:11:45 GMT -8
Now it's time for USA Hockey to find some moral compass, and to step down and not be part of the Beijing games altogether. I think the USA Olympic team as a whole should boycott these games, but we al know that won't happen. Agreed, Fuck China
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 8:13:47 GMT -8
NEW YORK - New Jersey Devils defenseman P.K. Subban has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for a dangerous trip against Calgary Flames forward Milan Lucic during NHL Game No. 90 in New Jersey on Tuesday, Oct. 26, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 8:19:28 GMT -8
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Post by John96 on Oct 27, 2021 8:20:18 GMT -8
NEW YORK - New Jersey Devils defenseman P.K. Subban has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for a dangerous trip against Calgary Flames forward Milan Lucic during NHL Game No. 90 in New Jersey on Tuesday, Oct. 26, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today. Doesn’t need to be. It was reckless if not intentional. Ask Lucic what he thought. Or check the box score and see if he took a penalty on Subban later. That’d probably tell you.
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 27, 2021 8:29:47 GMT -8
I think the USA Olympic team as a whole should boycott these games, but we al know that won't happen. Agreed, Fuck ChinaYay!
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 27, 2021 8:31:01 GMT -8
NEW YORK - New Jersey Devils defenseman P.K. Subban has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for a dangerous trip against Calgary Flames forward Milan Lucic during NHL Game No. 90 in New Jersey on Tuesday, Oct. 26, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today. Doesn’t need to be. It was reckless if not intentional. Ask Lucic what he thought. Or check the box score and see if he took a penalty on Subban later. That’d probably tell you. My guess is PK knew what he was doing here. Wonder if they were chirping at each other earlier. Either way you cant do that and PK knows it.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 10:23:06 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 10:45:50 GMT -8
from Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet,
It’s not over yet. There are a lot of questions that need answers.
First because it’s the most time-sensitive: shouldn’t everyone involved get on a call and agree it’s a good idea to give Joel Quenneville the night off? The coach said this morning he will meet with commissioner Gary Bettman Thursday in the aftermath of the painful Chicago investigation released Tuesday.
The Boston Globe’s Matt Porter reported that Quenneville was asked if he stood by the statement he released in July — that he first learned of the Chicago allegations last summer? Quenneville answered yes, but wouldn’t comment further.
That is in direct disagreement with the investigation, which stated he was worried about it becoming a distraction prior to the 2010 Stanley Cup Final, and wrote a positive performance evaluation for Brad Aldrich after the victory.
Undoubtedly, Quenneville feels coaching is his job and he will do it until he’s told he can’t. Fine, but now that there is a completed investigation — with the Blackhawks accepting its results — the gravity of the outcome demands sensitivity.
If there’s something Thursday that explains the discrepancy, by all means let’s hear it. But let’s hear that first.
As this is written Wednesday morning, the commissioner’s interview with Winnipeg GM Kevin Cheveldayoff is yet to be scheduled. Cheveldayoff’s statement included, “I had no knowledge of any allegations involving Mr. Aldrich until asked if I was aware of anything just prior to the conclusion of his employment with the Chicago Blackhawks. After confirming that I had no prior knowledge of anything, I had no further involvement.”
It’s obvious a lawyer wrote it, because — by a purely legal definition — it’s accurate. But, learning yesterday that Cheveldayoff was included in the meeting where allegations were first discussed among senior management was jarring, based on that statement. It feels misleading and I can understand why people are upset by it.
Also:
Are punishments severe enough to make sure no future individual is harmed by a “failure to report?” From pages 68-69 of the investigation: “What is clear is that, after being informed of Aldrich’s alleged sexual harassment and misconduct with a player, no action was taken for three weeks…The failure to promptly and thoroughly investigate the matter and the decision to take no action from May 23 to June 14 had consequences. During that period, Aldrich continued to work with and travel with the team. Aldrich engaged in an unwanted sexual advance on a Blackhawks intern — physically grabbing the intern in a sexual manner.”
Those 107 pages are a hard, painful read. Some information was expected. Other bits were not. That one was new, and it stung. Inactivity led to assault, and it’s unacceptable. Fruit of an extremely poisonous tree.
The $2M fine isn’t enough. The individual consequences? Maybe. Two who attended the original high-level meeting — CEO John McDonough and Executive Vice-President Jay Blunk — were already out. GM Stan Bowman and Senior Vice-President of Hockey Operations Al MacIsaac were removed Tuesday. Commissioner Gary Bettman’s statement indicated all will have to meet with him before any potential return to the NHL. We will see what happens in Florida and Winnipeg.
Also:
• While the report disputes that all of the players knew during the chase for the 2010 Stanley Cup, there is an accusation John Doe was disgracefully taunted by at least one then-Blackhawk in the aftermath. We haven’t heard the last of this. Someone compared this to an iceberg, that most of it is underwater and we don’t see everything yet.
• Will any names come off the Stanley Cup?
• Will the Blackhawks try to re-collect any of McDonough’s severance?
• How do the team’s fans react? On-ice, it’s been ugly. Now, there’s off-ice pain. Next home game is Wednesday night versus Toronto.
• It’s a very small part of the report, but, on some level, NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr was notified about what happened. Where does that part of the story go?
• What are the unexpected ramifications and aftershocks?
The report is written, placed where everyone can see it. But the story is far from finished.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 10:46:37 GMT -8
They're doing it again
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Post by cjelli on Oct 27, 2021 10:52:33 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 10:57:51 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 14:46:37 GMT -8
from TSN,
After playing major junior hockey with the Everett Silvertips and Lethbridge Hurricanes in the Western Hockey League, Kyle Beach was drafted by the Chicago Blackhawks in the first round, 11th overall, in the 2008 NHL entry draft.
Kyle was recalled during the 2010 playoffs as a Black Ace with the NHL team, practicing alongside the Blackhawks regulars. Over subsequent seasons, Beach played mostly in the American Hockey League and in European hockey leagues.
Beach is now 31 and playing pro hockey in Germany. On Wednesday, Beach joined TSN’s SportsCentre to discuss the sexual abuse allegations he has made against former Blackhawks video coach Brad Aldrich.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 14:59:16 GMT -8
The NHL and Blackhawks really screwed up this one. The league owners should force Wirtz to sell the team
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Post by cjelli on Oct 27, 2021 16:50:43 GMT -8
The NHL and Blackhawks really screwed up this one. The league owners should force Wirtz to sell the team That won't be enough. Everyone who was on the team in 2010 has to be booted from the league. Not many are left, but still.
(Duncan Keith will have to remain as a mutual punishment for him and for the Edmonton Oilers)
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Post by cjelli on Oct 27, 2021 16:51:00 GMT -8
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Post by John96 on Oct 27, 2021 18:53:03 GMT -8
The fine for the Hawks is a joke. Everyone who knew what happened and didn’t do the right thing should face severe punishment. The organization should be ashamed and not only the 2010 championship but their entire ‘dynasty’ or whatever is tainted.
It is disgusting what happened. Kyle Beach should be rightfully lauded for his courage in stepping forward and doing his part to see justice done.
As an aside, does anyone else remember him as the big, nasty, agitating, skilled forward who had a ton of character concerns coming out of the WHL. He was considered a huge boom-or-bust prospect. Dreadful what happened to him and you can’t help but wonder how it impacted his hockey career (obviously not as important as what it did to his entire life).
Also, I hate that my mind even goes here but would anyone not be surprised like me if somehow, someway, this leads to Blackhawks changing their team name and/or logo?
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 19:10:13 GMT -8
The fine for the Hawks is a joke. Everyone who knew what happened and didn’t do the right thing should face severe punishment. The organization should be ashamed and not only the 2010 championship but their entire ‘dynasty’ or whatever is tainted. It is disgusting what happened. Kyle Beach should be rightfully lauded for his courage in stepping forward and doing his part to see justice done. As an aside, does anyone else remember him as the big, nasty, agitating, skilled forward who had a ton of character concerns coming out of the WHL. He was considered a huge boom-or-bust prospect. Dreadful what happened to him and you can’t help but wonder how it impacted his hockey career (obviously not as important as what it did to his entire life). Also, I hate that my mind even goes here but would anyone not be surprised like me if somehow, someway, this leads to Blackhawks changing their team name and/or logo? Ever since the dustup about the Redskins and their logo I've often wondered when they would go after the Blackhawks. Only time will tell but something besides a $2 Million dollar fined and a couple of executives resigning is just not right in this instance. This is a total disregard for the safety of players and the power of team executives. Penn State, and Larry Nassar should have been a good lesson for all sports to clean up their act. But apparently the NHL missed that memo
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Post by jackalope on Oct 27, 2021 20:11:52 GMT -8
The fine for the Hawks is a joke. Everyone who knew what happened and didn’t do the right thing should face severe punishment. The organization should be ashamed and not only the 2010 championship but their entire ‘dynasty’ or whatever is tainted. It is disgusting what happened. Kyle Beach should be rightfully lauded for his courage in stepping forward and doing his part to see justice done. As an aside, does anyone else remember him as the big, nasty, agitating, skilled forward who had a ton of character concerns coming out of the WHL. He was considered a huge boom-or-bust prospect. Dreadful what happened to him and you can’t help but wonder how it impacted his hockey career (obviously not as important as what it did to his entire life). Also, I hate that my mind even goes here but would anyone not be surprised like me if somehow, someway, this leads to Blackhawks changing their team name and/or logo? Ever since the dustup about the Redskins and their logo I've often wondered when they would go after the Blackhawks. Only time will tell but something besides a $2 Million dollar fined and a couple of executives resigning is just not right in this instance. This is a total disregard for the safety of players and the power of team executives. Penn State, and Larry Nassar should have been a good lesson for all sports to clean up their act. But apparently the NHL missed that memo I sure with the woke transition the NHL is doing, they could very well change it now (I believe they should not be ashamed and should not change from the Blackhawks). I wouldn't advocate for pulling draft pics because that would only hurt the new leadership (who wasn't apart of the incident) but anyone and everyone involved that didn't report needs to be fired asap. Bowman tried to pass the buck and blame the president but honestly anyone in that chain of command could have easily done the "right" thing and called the cops as soon as they realized nothing was being done, or after that meeting that nothing was going to be done. They all chose and stood by their actions, now its time for the consequences.
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Post by jackalope on Oct 27, 2021 20:13:55 GMT -8
The fine for the Hawks is a joke. Everyone who knew what happened and didn’t do the right thing should face severe punishment. The organization should be ashamed and not only the 2010 championship but their entire ‘dynasty’ or whatever is tainted. It is disgusting what happened. Kyle Beach should be rightfully lauded for his courage in stepping forward and doing his part to see justice done. As an aside, does anyone else remember him as the big, nasty, agitating, skilled forward who had a ton of character concerns coming out of the WHL. He was considered a huge boom-or-bust prospect. Dreadful what happened to him and you can’t help but wonder how it impacted his hockey career (obviously not as important as what it did to his entire life). Also, I hate that my mind even goes here but would anyone not be surprised like me if somehow, someway, this leads to Blackhawks changing their team name and/or logo? Ever since the dustup about the Redskins and their logo I've often wondered when they would go after the Blackhawks. Only time will tell but something besides a $2 Million dollar fined and a couple of executives resigning is just not right in this instance. This is a total disregard for the safety of players and the power of team executives. Penn State, and Larry Nassar should have been a good lesson for all sports to clean up their act. But apparently the NHL missed that memo Yeah I don't know how anyone who knew what had happened didn't knock that fuckers teeth out and then call 911 to report the sexual assault. The negligence is disgusting. Because that predator assaulted someone like a week later, then when he moved on to a college and was finally convicted only after a minor was assaulted.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 22:00:43 GMT -8
Fehr with a statement not to blame the players association.
TORONTO (Oct. 27, 2021) – National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) Executive Director Don Fehr issued the following statement today:
“Kyle Beach has been through a horrific experience and has shown true courage in telling his story. There is no doubt that the system failed to support him in his time of need, and we are part of that system.
In his media interview, Mr. Beach stated that several months after the incident he told someone at the NHLPA the details of what happened to him. He is referring to one of the program doctors with the NHL/NHLPA player assistance program. While this program is confidential between players and the doctors, the grave nature of this incident should have resulted in further action on our part. The fact that it did not was a serious failure. I am truly sorry, and I am committed to making changes to ensure it does not happen again.”
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 22:04:43 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 27, 2021 22:05:06 GMT -8
Fehr with a statement not to blame the players association. TORONTO (Oct. 27, 2021) – National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) Executive Director Don Fehr issued the following statement today: “Kyle Beach has been through a horrific experience and has shown true courage in telling his story. There is no doubt that the system failed to support him in his time of need, and we are part of that system. In his media interview, Mr. Beach stated that several months after the incident he told someone at the NHLPA the details of what happened to him. He is referring to one of the program doctors with the NHL/NHLPA player assistance program. While this program is confidential between players and the doctors, the grave nature of this incident should have resulted in further action on our part. The fact that it did not was a serious failure. I am truly sorry, and I am committed to making changes to ensure it does not happen again.”
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Post by galtfan on Oct 28, 2021 4:36:53 GMT -8
The NHL and Blackhawks really screwed up this one. The league owners should force Wirtz to sell the team Maybe as punishment they should have to take on Kane's contract.
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Post by cjelli on Oct 28, 2021 6:07:08 GMT -8
One thing doesn't come together for me. How do you force a 6'3" 200lbs 20-year-old man at the peak of his physical capacity into a homosexual act alone, with a baseball bat? Especially when the rapist is not a military superior or a police officer over a detained? Brad Aldrich is a video coach, not Mike Tyson.
HOW?
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Post by John96 on Oct 28, 2021 6:44:06 GMT -8
One thing doesn't come together for me. How do you force a 6'3" 200lbs 20-year-old man at the peak of his physical capacity into a homosexual act alone, with a baseball bat? Especially when the rapist is not a military superior or a police officer over a detained? Brad Aldrich is a video coach, not Mike Tyson. HOW? I read this report and ones like it before (think of the Mike Danton/Theo Fleury/Sheldon Kennedy revelations) and your question is one that always comes up but I don’t think anyone can expect to get an answer that’ll satisfy. It won’t make sense to us who have never been in that horrible situation. It always seems like an easy answer, why didn’t you just fight him off and run away, but I would venture to guess it’s the entire emotional and mental shock and terror in that moment that makes them freeze instead of fight or fly. That isn’t a knock on Beach or any other victim either, just how some respond to trauma/stress/danger/fear. I think the perpetrators of these heinous acts have a knack for identifying who will respond that way. Reading the report makes it sound like Aldrich knew who to target and what to do in order to assault Beach. Which is why we call them predators and what makes a disgusting crime even more repulsive. That’s my two cents at least.
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Post by cjelli on Oct 28, 2021 7:18:39 GMT -8
One thing doesn't come together for me. How do you force a 6'3" 200lbs 20-year-old man at the peak of his physical capacity into a homosexual act alone, with a baseball bat? Especially when the rapist is not a military superior or a police officer over a detained? Brad Aldrich is a video coach, not Mike Tyson. HOW? I read this report and ones like it before (think of the Mike Danton/Theo Fleury/Sheldon Kennedy revelations) and your question is one that always comes up but I don’t think anyone can expect to get an answer that’ll satisfy. It won’t make sense to us who have never been in that horrible situation. It always seems like an easy answer, why didn’t you just fight him off and run away, but I would venture to guess it’s the entire emotional and mental shock and terror in that moment that makes them freeze instead of fight or fly. That isn’t a knock on Beach or any other victim either, just how some respond to trauma/stress/danger/fear. I think the perpetrators of these heinous acts have a knack for identifying who will respond that way. Reading the report makes it sound like Aldrich knew who to target and what to do in order to assault Beach. Which is why we call them predators and what makes a disgusting crime even more repulsive. That’s my two cents at least. Wait, the _rape_ has been proven? Or is the investigation of whether it was advance and coercion vs violent assault and rape still on?
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