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Post by cjelli on Oct 25, 2021 6:43:06 GMT -8
Seems kinda weird to sign him over the summer just to trade for a 7th. Must have been a falling out of sorts. Maybe he said he missed Evander Kane?
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Post by John96 on Oct 25, 2021 7:03:56 GMT -8
Seems kinda weird to sign him over the summer just to trade for a 7th. Must have been a falling out of sorts. It seems weird but they were probably satisfied enough with his play to not just replace him outright because that’s not gonna send a good message to the group. He did improve a notch last year but he still had some holes in his game and a low ceiling. For a team as bad as the Sharks are (or were if you believe) a 4C’s job is always up for grabs. They found better players or guys with higher potential with Cogliano, Weatherby, and Pederson.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 25, 2021 8:49:31 GMT -8
Seems kinda weird to sign him over the summer just to trade for a 7th. Must have been a falling out of sorts. Maybe he said he missed Evander Kane? LMAO, that's the first thing I thought
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Post by wallyshark on Oct 25, 2021 9:37:31 GMT -8
Maybe the NHL will work with the Sharks on a special buyout of Kane’s Contract? Actually this is wishful thinking on my part.However if they did, we could really be set up for the future and shave a couple of years of a retool. I know it’s a very small sample size, but there’s no one in this chat room that thought the Sharks would be this good and 4-1 at this Point in time. . My pessimism thinks the Sharks can’t keep this up, I really fucking hope I am wrong!!
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 25, 2021 10:58:50 GMT -8
Maybe the NHL will work with the Sharks on a special buyout of Kane’s Contract? Actually this is wishful thinking on my part.However if they did, we could really be set up for the future and shave a couple of years of a retool. I know it’s a very small sample size, but there’s no one in this chat room that thought the Sharks would be this good and 4-1 at this Point in time. . My pessimism thinks the Sharks can’t keep this up, I really fucking hope I am wrong!! They look much better than I thought they would. There is also no doubt the subtraction of Kane is a big win for this team. DW cant put him back on the ice no matter what.
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Post by John96 on Oct 25, 2021 13:01:26 GMT -8
Maybe the NHL will work with the Sharks on a special buyout of Kane’s Contract? Actually this is wishful thinking on my part.However if they did, we could really be set up for the future and shave a couple of years of a retool. I know it’s a very small sample size, but there’s no one in this chat room that thought the Sharks would be this good and 4-1 at this Point in time. . My pessimism thinks the Sharks can’t keep this up, I really fucking hope I am wrong!! They look much better than I thought they would. There is also no doubt the subtraction of Kane is a big win for this team. DW cant put him back on the ice no matter what. Whats the over/under on Kane winning AHL MVP.
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 25, 2021 13:37:37 GMT -8
They look much better than I thought they would. There is also no doubt the subtraction of Kane is a big win for this team. DW cant put him back on the ice no matter what. Whats the over/under on Kane winning AHL MVP. I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know.
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Post by John96 on Oct 25, 2021 14:00:37 GMT -8
Whats the over/under on Kane winning AHL MVP. I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. I hear you can make good money playing hockey in Russia.
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Post by coachjules on Oct 25, 2021 14:41:01 GMT -8
I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. I hear you can make good money playing hockey in Russia. I’m thinking his game might not translate. Kane’s typical play is to skate hard and fast down the wall to the face off circle and shoot hard from there. Russkies seem to like skill, finesse and razzle dazzle.
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Post by wallyshark on Oct 25, 2021 14:43:03 GMT -8
Whats the over/under on Kane winning AHL MVP. I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. Yeah this isn't the NFL. There would be a Dozen Teams lined up if this were the NFL.
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 25, 2021 15:48:08 GMT -8
I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. Yeah this isn't the NFL. There would be a Dozen Teams lined up if this were the NFL. Or NBA.
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Post by jackalope on Oct 25, 2021 16:59:44 GMT -8
Whats the over/under on Kane winning AHL MVP. I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. With the signings over the summer and their general demeanor, I could only see MTL and CAR being the only teams even remotely possible. And currently BOTH are over the cap.
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Post by jackalope on Oct 25, 2021 17:02:37 GMT -8
I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. I hear you can make good money playing hockey in Russia. The "life" that comes along with playing in the KHL seems to be what Kane wants to live with all that has happened. I think that would be the only way for all sides to win? (if its even possible as I have not researched it).
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Post by galtfan on Oct 26, 2021 5:04:37 GMT -8
I dont think he would agree to play there. What would be a win win: Break the contract. Somebody/anybody signs him to a one year lowest allowable contract. Sharks win. He can then declare BK. EK9 win. After that I dont see how any GM/coach would want him in the NHL but you never know. Yeah this isn't the NFL. There would be a Dozen Teams lined up if this were the NFL. Yeah this isn't the NFL. There would be a Dozen Teams lined up if this were the NFL. Or NBA. Both of those leagues would welcome him with open arms and then claim how racist against blacks the NHL is.
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Post by coachjules on Oct 26, 2021 8:30:40 GMT -8
I hear you can make good money playing hockey in Russia. The "life" that comes along with playing in the KHL seems to be what Kane wants to live with all that has happened. I think that would be the only way for all sides to win? (if its even possible as I have not researched it). Well as I’ve suggested before there is some peril. Those Russian bookies mean business.
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Post by cjelli on Oct 26, 2021 8:46:13 GMT -8
I hear you can make good money playing hockey in Russia. The "life" that comes along with playing in the KHL seems to be what Kane wants to live with all that has happened. I think that would be the only way for all sides to win? (if its even possible as I have not researched it). People there are not very racially tolerant.
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Post by jackalope on Oct 26, 2021 8:58:42 GMT -8
The "life" that comes along with playing in the KHL seems to be what Kane wants to live with all that has happened. I think that would be the only way for all sides to win? (if its even possible as I have not researched it). Well as I’ve suggested before there is some peril. Those Russian bookies mean business. Exactly my point. He wants to live the gangster life, KHL is precisely that. He hasn't thought about consequences of his action this far, why would he change now?
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Post by jackalope on Oct 26, 2021 9:00:14 GMT -8
The "life" that comes along with playing in the KHL seems to be what Kane wants to live with all that has happened. I think that would be the only way for all sides to win? (if its even possible as I have not researched it). People there are not very racially tolerant. He says he has been dealing with that his whole life because of hockey, he should be used to it haha.
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Post by cjelli on Oct 26, 2021 9:50:18 GMT -8
People there are not very racially tolerant. He says he has been dealing with that his whole life because of hockey, he should be used to it haha. Oh, I am all for him getting acquainted with what real anti-negro racism looks like. Bananas and stuff.
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Post by John96 on Oct 26, 2021 10:44:54 GMT -8
Stan Bowman’s stepped down as GM of the Blackhawks due to the investigation into sexual misconduct in 2010. TSN says the new report tells that basically all the big front office guys new, including Bowman, Kevin Chevaldayoff (Jets GM, then AGM) and Joel Quenneville.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 10:54:32 GMT -8
Stan Bowman’s stepped down as GM of the Blackhawks due to the investigation into sexual misconduct in 2010. TSN says the new report tells that basically all the big front office guys new, including Bowman, Kevin Chevaldayoff (Jets GM, then AGM) and Joel Quenneville. This $2 Million dollar fine is a joke. They piss away $2 Million every month. Make it a fine commensurate with the value of the organization NEW YORK (Oct. 26, 2021) – The National Hockey League announced today that the Chicago Blackhawks have been fined $2 Million for the organization’s inadequate internal procedures and insufficient and untimely response in the handling of matters related to former video coach Brad Aldrich’s employment with the Club and ultimate departure in 2010. The League and the Blackhawks have decided that $1 Million of the fine money will be dedicated to fund local organizations in and around the Chicago community that provide counseling and training for, and support and assistance to, survivors of sexual and other forms of abuse. Today’s announcement results from the League’s review of an independent investigative report (the “Report”) conducted and prepared by the law firm of Jenner & Block, LLP. The League has reviewed the Report and is satisfied as to its methodology and thoroughness. The investigation was conducted independent of interference or other influence from the Blackhawks, the NHL or any other third party. The scope of the investigation was broad and comprehensive, involving the interviews of 139 witnesses and the review of all relevant documents and records that remained available for inspection. We are comfortable that the Report provides an accurate account (or at least as accurate as possible) of the events that transpired 11 years ago. The Report is primarily focused on the Club’s response (or lack of response) to an incident brought to senior management’s attention in the Spring of 2010, when the Blackhawks were competing in the 2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs, which involved then-current video coach Brad Aldrich. According to the Report, based on available evidence and recollections of those involved, Aldrich was involved in a sexual encounter with another individual in the organization (a Player), which some described as a sexual assault and others described as consensual. Unfortunately, as a result of the Club’s inadequate and delayed follow-up upon learning of these events, as well as the sheer passage of time, it is now difficult, if not impossible, to determine the specifics of the incident with any adequate degree of certainty. Nevertheless, and regardless of the precise nature of the incident itself, it is recognized and must be acknowledged that the respective employment roles of the two involved individuals (Coach and Player) rendered the encounter -- even if it was consensual -- problematic and inappropriate. The Report describes in detail a meeting that was convened among members of senior Club management on May 23, 2010, following the clinching game of the 2010 Western Conference Championship Series. The meeting involved (at various times) six individuals from then-senior Club management, including then-President John McDonough, then-Senior Vice President Jay Blunk, General Manager Stan Bowman, then-Senior Director of Hockey Administration Al MacIsaac, then-Assistant General Manager Kevin Cheveldayoff, and then-Head Coach Joel Quenneville. (Jim Gary, at the time a mental skills coach for the Blackhawks, was also present for the beginning of the meeting, but departed upon making his report.) According to the Report, after discussion of the alleged incident and how the Club should be dealing with it -- including the potential options of initiating an investigation, notifying appropriate members of the Human Resources Department, ensuring the immediate separation of Aldrich from the Club’s Players, among other things -- ultimately the determination was made and direction given that Hockey Operations personnel should devote their exclusive attention to on-ice matters heading into the Stanley Cup Final, and that other appropriate Club personnel within the organization would take responsibility for “handling” the Aldrich situation in a prompt and appropriate manner -- which, as subsequent events make clear, did not happen. Specifically, the Report concluded, “after being informed of Aldrich’s alleged sexual harassment and misconduct with a player, no action was taken for three weeks…While there was a lack of recollection as to whether anyone else present in the meeting besides [the Club’s President] needed to or would take any additional steps, nothing was done by the other senior leaders to address the situation.” The failure to promptly and thoroughly investigate the matter not only violated the Blackhawks’ own sexual harassment policy in effect at the time, the decision to take no action from May 23 to June 14, [2010] had real consequences, including allegations involving an additional unwanted sexual advance by Aldrich to a Blackhawks’ intern before he was ultimately separated from the Club. “We acknowledge that the Blackhawks have taken responsibility and ownership for what transpired, and have already implemented new preventative measures, as well as committed to additional changes that may be deemed appropriate as part of its responsive plan of action to the investigation and Report,” Commissioner Gary Bettman said. “Such steps have included, but were not limited to: (i) retaining independent counsel to conduct a thorough investigation into the facts surrounding the 2010 allegations and the sufficiency of the Club’s response thereto; (ii) reviewing the Club’s internal policies, procedures and practices, including its internal operating structure and management personnel, to ensure a best-in-class approach going forward; and (iii) implementing various changes and upgrades to its internal procedures and personnel, including by adding enhanced subject matter expertise, creating more stringent reporting obligations, developing new and modernized employee handbooks, and implementing more comprehensive training and education programs. “Having said that, today’s fine represents a direct and necessary response to the failure of the Club to follow-up and address the 2010 incident in a timely and appropriate manner,” Bettman continued. “And, this response should send a clear message to all NHL Clubs and all NHL personnel that inappropriate acts must be addressed in a timely fashion. In that regard, we also reiterate that the League has implemented a confidential and anonymous Hot Line, which is available at any time to all NHL personnel.” Importantly, the Report makes clear that senior management’s handling of the alleged incident included a failure to report the matter to Chicago ownership, both as to what was alleged and how it was being handled. This failure only highlights the flawed and inadequate procedures the Club had in place at the time to deal with an allegation of this type. “Additionally, we are faced with determining whether the imposition of League discipline is appropriate for the Club’s senior leaders at the time who were specifically referenced in the Report. As to four of those individuals (i.e., John McDonough and Jay Blunk and, as of today, Stan Bowman and Al MacIsaac), they are no longer employed by the Chicago Blackhawks and are no longer employed in the League. Should they wish to re-enter the League in some capacity in the future, I will require a meeting with me in advance of their accepting any NHL Club-related position in order to determine the appropriate conditions under which such new employment might take place,” Bettman said. “With respect to Messrs. Cheveldayoff and Quenneville, who are currently employed by NHL Clubs other than the Blackhawks (the Winnipeg Jets and the Florida Panthers, respectively), I plan to arrange personal meetings in the near future with both individuals to discuss their roles in the relevant events as detailed in the Report. I will reserve judgment on next steps, if any, with respect to them.”
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 10:56:23 GMT -8
Elliotte Friedman is tweeting some of the findings so check his recent timeline.
139 witnesses, including 21 players and five of nine Black Aces who were called up. On May 8 or 9, 2010 John Doe had a sexual encounter with Aldrich. Doe said the encounter was non-consensual. Aldrich said it was consensual…
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 10:57:44 GMT -8
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Post by cjelli on Oct 26, 2021 11:18:33 GMT -8
Stan Bowman’s stepped down as GM of the Blackhawks due to the investigation into sexual misconduct in 2010. TSN says the new report tells that basically all the big front office guys new, including Bowman, Kevin Chevaldayoff (Jets GM, then AGM) and Joel Quenneville. The League and the Blackhawks have decided that $1 Million of the fine money will be dedicated to fund local organizations in and around the Chicago community that provide counseling and training for, and support and assistance to, survivors of sexual and other forms of abuse. Oh, I bet this money is going to be well spent...
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 11:31:45 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 12:28:27 GMT -8
The Chicago Blackhawks player who was sexually assaulted by Brad Aldrich has released the following statement.
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Post by danvilleshark on Oct 26, 2021 13:52:02 GMT -8
Elliotte Friedman is tweeting some of the findings so check his recent timeline. 139 witnesses, including 21 players and five of nine Black Aces who were called up. On May 8 or 9, 2010 John Doe had a sexual encounter with Aldrich. Doe said the encounter was non-consensual. Aldrich said it was consensual… If this assault happened to any of these guys children my guess is the reaction would have been different. Including coach Q!
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Post by wallyshark on Oct 26, 2021 15:26:32 GMT -8
Reminds me of Penn State and Coach Paterno.
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 16:51:31 GMT -8
Reminds me of Penn State and Coach Paterno. In a way it is like the Paterno situation. The higher ups said they would take care of it and turned a blind eye. If the NHL had any balls they would go after Wirtz and his goons
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Post by Fugazi on Oct 26, 2021 21:37:08 GMT -8
from Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune,
It will take years for the Chicago Blackhawks to remove the stench of the organization’s mishandling of sexual assault allegations against former video coach Brad Aldrich.
After a bombshell report by investigators from Chicago law firm Jenner & Block revealed that former Hawks President John McDonough, general manager Stan Bowman and former coach Joel Quenneville were all part of a meeting discussing the allegations in May 2010 — yet did nothing about it until the Stanley Cup Final had concluded three weeks later — the only thing the Hawks owners can do is beg for everyone’s forgiveness and find a leader who can bring trust back to the organization.
Their first step Tuesday — after Hawks Chairman Rocky Wirtz and his son, CEO Danny Wirtz, made sure to let everyone know they knew nothing of the allegations until the first lawsuit was filed this past May — was to get Bowman to hand in his resignation, replacing him on an interim basis with Kyle Davidson.
Bowman in turn released a statement in which he basically blamed McDonough for not handling the incident. Thus he leaves the Hawks in the same manner he operated as their GM, with a smirk and no real acceptance of responsibility for his actions.
For years Hawks fans wondered how the Wirtzes could continue to allow Bowman to run the franchise into the ground with so many poor free-agent signings and trades. Now we know. Their respect for Bowman is so deeply ingrained, they allowed him to resign instead of firing him, as any other corporation would do to an employee involved in a similar mishandling of an alleged sexual assault.
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