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Post by John96 on Jan 13, 2020 17:44:39 GMT -8
The hit(s) by Tkachuk to me were clean and exactly what you want from him. Guys need to pay attention when he is on the ice and in the postseason this is how you wear teams down in a long series. Not so long ago we saw several players like this, today not so much. There is still a place for hard clean hits and I for one wish the Sharks had a bit more of this. Don't necessarily agree with that. I personally don't mind either hit by Tkachuck because that's how he has to play to be effect but both were predatory and the first (I think) was clearly a head hit with principle point of contact coming to the head. Neither getting penalized doesn't bother me but it'd bother just about everyone else if it was landed on McDavid rather than Kassian. Secondly, I don't mind Kassian's reaction either. He's a tough guy. Some young guy who isn't as tough as him takes that kind of run at him, not once, but twice, how else is he supposed to respond? I kind of admire him for turning the other cheek one time. He's in the league in some way because he protects his guys from stuff like that, goes without saying he has to protect himself. If he doesn't, it just fuels Tkachuk and the Flames. Sucks for him that they couldn't kill the PP and lost the game but wars are not won in a single battle. As for Tkachuk, go ahead a turtle if you want to but don't complain when that becomes your reputation and people call you on it. Also and it's something few have mentioned that I've seen, part of the reason Tkachuk doesn't fight back isn't because he's getting his team a power play or won't get some momentum, it's because he knows he'll lose fighting fair and square against someone like Kassian. Again, not issue if you want to play the game that way but just remember that's also how Avery, Cooke, and Marchand played, so beware to take the same criticism as them. And all of them had no issue flexing their muscle when they had the advantage. It might be best for them and their team but I see no honour or toughness in it so don't expect that kind of praise. And while I'm at it, this is part of the reason why I don't mind Evander Kane, even though he plays the same game, and actually have grown fond of him since he arrived. He is a Tkachuk/Marchand type of player but he fights his own battles, and against the likes of Chara and Reaves. That's toughness and that should go a ways in pulling a team together. Going way back, Bryan Marchment was the same way. Not many guys towed the line or crossed it as much as he did and even fewer faced the music as much or as willingly as he did too. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 13, 2020 17:53:20 GMT -8
The hit(s) by Tkachuk to me were clean and exactly what you want from him. Guys need to pay attention when he is on the ice and in the postseason this is how you wear teams down in a long series. Not so long ago we saw several players like this, today not so much. There is still a place for hard clean hits and I for one wish the Sharks had a bit more of this. Don't necessarily agree with that. I personally don't mind either hit by Tkachuck because that's how he has to play to be effect but both were predatory and the first (I think) was clearly a head hit with principle point of contact coming to the head. Neither getting penalized doesn't bother me but it'd bother just about everyone else if it was landed on McDavid rather than Kassian. Secondly, I don't mind Kassian's reaction either. He's a tough guy. Some young guy who isn't as tough as him takes that kind of run at him, not once, but twice, how else is he supposed to respond? I kind of admire him for turning the other cheek one time. He's in the league in some way because he protects his guys from stuff like that, goes without saying he has to protect himself. If he doesn't, it just fuels Tkachuk and the Flames. Sucks for him that they couldn't kill the PP and lost the game but wars are not won in a single battle. As for Tkachuk, go ahead a turtle if you want to but don't complain when that becomes your reputation and people call you on it. Also and it's something few have mentioned that I've seen, part of the reason Tkachuk doesn't fight back isn't because he's getting his team a power play or won't get some momentum, it's because he knows he'll lose fighting fair and square against someone like Kassian. Again, not issue if you want to play the game that way but just remember that's also how Avery, Cooke, and Marchand played, so beware to take the same criticism as them. And all of them had no issue flexing their muscle when they had the advantage. It might be best for them and their team but I see no honour or toughness in it so don't expect that kind of praise. And while I'm at it, this is part of the reason why I don't mind Evander Kane, even though he plays the same game, and actually have grown fond of him since he arrived. He is a Tkachuk/Marchand type of player but he fights his own battles, and against the likes of Chara and Reaves. That's toughness and that should go a ways in pulling a team together. Going way back, Bryan Marchment was the same way. Not many guys towed the line or crossed it as much as he did and even fewer faced the music as much or as willingly as he did too. You beat me to it and explained it better then me. Bottom line for me; I’m fine with the hits but I can’t stand guys that act tough then turtle up when confronted. All the names you mention are good examples but I would add Steve Ott in the POS turtle category. Also, agree about Kane. I think its complete BS that Kassian got two games for this. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 13, 2020 18:35:22 GMT -8
The hit(s) by Tkachuk to me were clean and exactly what you want from him. Guys need to pay attention when he is on the ice and in the postseason this is how you wear teams down in a long series. Not so long ago we saw several players like this, today not so much. There is still a place for hard clean hits and I for one wish the Sharks had a bit more of this. Don't necessarily agree with that. I personally don't mind either hit by Tkachuck because that's how he has to play to be effect but both were predatory and the first (I think) was clearly a head hit with principle point of contact coming to the head. Neither getting penalized doesn't bother me but it'd bother just about everyone else if it was landed on McDavid rather than Kassian. Secondly, I don't mind Kassian's reaction either. He's a tough guy. Some young guy who isn't as tough as him takes that kind of run at him, not once, but twice, how else is he supposed to respond? I kind of admire him for turning the other cheek one time. He's in the league in some way because he protects his guys from stuff like that, goes without saying he has to protect himself. If he doesn't, it just fuels Tkachuk and the Flames. Sucks for him that they couldn't kill the PP and lost the game but wars are not won in a single battle. As for Tkachuk, go ahead a turtle if you want to but don't complain when that becomes your reputation and people call you on it. Also and it's something few have mentioned that I've seen, part of the reason Tkachuk doesn't fight back isn't because he's getting his team a power play or won't get some momentum, it's because he knows he'll lose fighting fair and square against someone like Kassian. Again, not issue if you want to play the game that way but just remember that's also how Avery, Cooke, and Marchand played, so beware to take the same criticism as them. And all of them had no issue flexing their muscle when they had the advantage. It might be best for them and their team but I see no honour or toughness in it so don't expect that kind of praise. And while I'm at it, this is part of the reason why I don't mind Evander Kane, even though he plays the same game, and actually have grown fond of him since he arrived. He is a Tkachuk/Marchand type of player but he fights his own battles, and against the likes of Chara and Reaves. That's toughness and that should go a ways in pulling a team together. Going way back, Bryan Marchment was the same way. Not many guys towed the line or crossed it as much as he did and even fewer faced the music as much or as willingly as he did too. To me as long as the hit is clean you should not have to fight to defend it. Remember when Logan hit Lucic? I dont think anyone expect Logan to drop the gloves with him. |
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Post by John96 on Jan 13, 2020 18:49:38 GMT -8
Don't necessarily agree with that. I personally don't mind either hit by Tkachuck because that's how he has to play to be effect but both were predatory and the first (I think) was clearly a head hit with principle point of contact coming to the head. Neither getting penalized doesn't bother me but it'd bother just about everyone else if it was landed on McDavid rather than Kassian. Secondly, I don't mind Kassian's reaction either. He's a tough guy. Some young guy who isn't as tough as him takes that kind of run at him, not once, but twice, how else is he supposed to respond? I kind of admire him for turning the other cheek one time. He's in the league in some way because he protects his guys from stuff like that, goes without saying he has to protect himself. If he doesn't, it just fuels Tkachuk and the Flames. Sucks for him that they couldn't kill the PP and lost the game but wars are not won in a single battle. As for Tkachuk, go ahead a turtle if you want to but don't complain when that becomes your reputation and people call you on it. Also and it's something few have mentioned that I've seen, part of the reason Tkachuk doesn't fight back isn't because he's getting his team a power play or won't get some momentum, it's because he knows he'll lose fighting fair and square against someone like Kassian. Again, not issue if you want to play the game that way but just remember that's also how Avery, Cooke, and Marchand played, so beware to take the same criticism as them. And all of them had no issue flexing their muscle when they had the advantage. It might be best for them and their team but I see no honour or toughness in it so don't expect that kind of praise. And while I'm at it, this is part of the reason why I don't mind Evander Kane, even though he plays the same game, and actually have grown fond of him since he arrived. He is a Tkachuk/Marchand type of player but he fights his own battles, and against the likes of Chara and Reaves. That's toughness and that should go a ways in pulling a team together. Going way back, Bryan Marchment was the same way. Not many guys towed the line or crossed it as much as he did and even fewer faced the music as much or as willingly as he did too. To me as long as the hit is clean you should not have to fight to defend it. Remember when Logan hit Lucic? I dont think anyone expect Logan to drop the gloves with him. I agree, clean hits should've have to be defended but just the same, hack a guy like Sorensen on the hands, he skates away. Hack a guy like Kane on the hands, expect a reaction. That's not wrong either. To me the difference between the type of the players matters. Tkachuk plays the same style of game as Kassian, just at a higher level. Again, I think the first hit was pretty obviously a headshot and a missed call by refs. Once the refs miss that, don't blame Kassian for protecting himself because the refs chose not to protect him initially. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 13, 2020 18:56:59 GMT -8
To me as long as the hit is clean you should not have to fight to defend it. Remember when Logan hit Lucic? I dont think anyone expect Logan to drop the gloves with him. I agree, clean hits should've have to be defended but just the same, hack a guy like Sorensen on the hands, he skates away. Hack a guy like Kane on the hands, expect a reaction. That's not wrong either. To me the difference between the type of the players matters. Tkachuk plays the same style of game as Kassian, just at a higher level. Again, I think the first hit was pretty obviously a headshot and a missed call by refs. Once the refs miss that, don't blame Kassian for protecting himself because the refs chose not to protect him initially. Even for a fighter sometimes a hit is better: |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 13, 2020 19:30:47 GMT -8
I've no sympathy at all.
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jan 15, 2020 7:53:01 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer
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Post by Badger on Jan 15, 2020 8:04:42 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer I didn’t see that one coming. |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 15, 2020 8:06:35 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer They also fired their GM & hired Doug Wilson to make ALL TRADES & SIGNING'S |
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Post by HOOCH2173 on Jan 15, 2020 8:07:16 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer This is me when I got the ESPN update. hmm ok. I guess.  |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 15, 2020 8:17:52 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer Fuck 'em |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 15, 2020 8:20:25 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer WOW I Thought you were joking, You think Vegas would want some of the Sharks deadwood players  |
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Post by redbeard on Jan 15, 2020 8:21:03 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer WTF?? |
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Post by Marbles on Jan 15, 2020 8:44:49 GMT -8
Yeah that's a pretty left field decision. I was mid swipe on what I thought was garbage news from the nhl app when the 'peter deboer hired as knights head coach' clicked.
Fucking odd. Vegas isn't even doing that poorly.
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Post by d5shark on Jan 15, 2020 8:49:45 GMT -8
Do it Dougie!! Hire Gallant
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jan 15, 2020 9:05:12 GMT -8
Didn't Gallant call DeBoer a clown during the playoff's ? If so, THE CLOWN WINS |
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Post by John96 on Jan 15, 2020 9:09:35 GMT -8
That is strange. Another layer to the rivalry I guess.
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 15, 2020 9:17:44 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer Oh my...Gallant is a complete idiot so I’m not surprised he got fired but I’m shocked they hired Pete. Although in Petes defense, I never thought he was the problem with the Sharks. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 15, 2020 9:25:13 GMT -8
I was on the Bruins GDT last night while watching them lose to Columbus. Their fans are a treat...much of the thread was spent on “the bruins are the softest team in hockey” (I’m not kidding) and “they need to fire the coach and trade 2/3 players” talk. Umm, hello, your team has the third best record, and the least number of losses, in the NHL!
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 15, 2020 9:28:22 GMT -8
Do it Dougie!! Hire Gallant Well, if we’re going down the “lets hire idiots” road, might as well try and trade for Marchand. He and Gallant would be perfect together |
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 15, 2020 9:46:13 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer  |
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jan 15, 2020 12:38:46 GMT -8
Didn’t DeBoer talk some trash about Reeves in the playoffs last year as well?
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 15, 2020 13:39:29 GMT -8
I guess Gallant won't be coaching in the All Star game this year. Does Pete take his place?
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Post by danvilleshark on Jan 15, 2020 14:21:10 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer There must be more to this than half of a bad season. |
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Post by oaklandshark on Jan 15, 2020 14:48:29 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer HOLY CRAP |
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Post by gilfan on Jan 15, 2020 17:24:00 GMT -8
Vegas fired Gallant and hired DeBoer There must be more to this than half of a bad season. They are only 3 pts out of First in the Pacific! Yeah, I don't think this was performance related |
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Post by jackalope on Jan 15, 2020 18:07:08 GMT -8
Didn't see the Deboer hiring coming. I'm sure he didn't want to go to Vegas, but with the uncertainty of coaching jobs in the NHL, he had to jump on what came to him.
I feel like Zack Kassian is the type of player the sharks need. A big body that can help Kane out in the physicality department. I wonder what it would take to get him to SJ.(Hes a UFA after this season)
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jan 15, 2020 19:24:47 GMT -8
Didn't see the Deboer hiring coming. I'm sure he didn't want to go to Vegas, but with the uncertainty of coaching jobs in the NHL, he had to jump on what came to him. I feel like Zack Kassian is the type of player the sharks need. A big body that can help Kane out in the physicality department. I wonder what it would take to get him to SJ.(Hes a UFA after this season) I understand the desire for a Kassian type player but IMO the Sharks need a defender that can actually play defense or a goal tender that can stop a puck...no other trades matter at this point. |
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Post by cjelli on Jan 15, 2020 21:44:20 GMT -8
Didn't see the Deboer hiring coming. I'm sure he didn't want to go to Vegas, but with the uncertainty of coaching jobs in the NHL, he had to jump on what came to him. I feel like Zack Kassian is the type of player the sharks need. A big body that can help Kane out in the physicality department. I wonder what it would take to get him to SJ.(Hes a UFA after this season) I understand the desire for a Kassian type player but IMO the Sharks need a defender that can actually play defense or a goal tender that can stop a puck...no other trades matter at this point. Zack Kassian has a negative value without Connor McDavid and/or Leon Draisaitl. He also doesn't play defense - he has the least number of blocked shots/60 in the entire league. By a margin. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jan 16, 2020 10:22:34 GMT -8
from Gabe Conte of GQ,
Brent Burns of the San Jose Sharks prefers to do things his way. On the ice, he excels as a hybrid, elite-level defenseman and point-scorer. Off the ice, his diet is hyper-specific: When he eats meat, he likes it from his own ranch that he and his family maintain in Texas. Burns says he feels healthier when consuming leaner and fresher game, and enjoys the oversight he has over the process of preparing his own meals, a luxury he doesn’t get on the road.
Many professional athletes find and maintain unusual (and expensive) hobbies, but when Burns gets going about how he populated his land with game including white-tailed deer, antelope, and wildebeest—yes, wildebeest—it becomes clear this is more than a hobby. Burns hunts and farms his own food because, he says, he has a genuine love for nature and wildlife.
It took a while to find the right plot of land—roughly two years, in fact—but Texas was always going to be the spot, given that Burns’s wife is from there. “We wanted to get a place where we can go to when everything’s said and done,” he says. “We finally found this place where there was enough space for what we wanted to do. I’m a huge animal lover, and I’ve been collecting all types for a while. I just love them, and I wanted animals to be a part of my kids' lives too.”
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