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Post by d5shark on Jun 1, 2020 9:16:40 GMT -8
I'm sure the paycheck helps... Not for nothing, but Evander Kane strikes me as the type of person that makes a big deal about any slight coming his way. Not saying he's making it up, but maybe he thinks its a bigger problem than it really is. |
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Post by redbeard on Jun 1, 2020 12:32:04 GMT -8
I'm sure the paycheck helps... Not for nothing, but Evander Kane strikes me as the type of person that makes a big deal about any slight coming his way. Not saying he's making it up, but maybe he thinks its a bigger problem than it really is. I don't know Kane personally. I've never even met him. All I know is what I've seen and he hasn't exactly been a model citizen. Money seems to be an issue for him as well...  |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 1, 2020 12:42:10 GMT -8
Not for nothing, but Evander Kane strikes me as the type of person that makes a big deal about any slight coming his way. Not saying he's making it up, but maybe he thinks its a bigger problem than it really is. I don't know Kane personally. I've never even met him. All I know is what I've seen and he hasn't exactly been a model citizen. Money seems to be an issue for him as well... There are several current shark teammates of his that have already grown tired of his act. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 1, 2020 13:02:01 GMT -8
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 1, 2020 13:19:24 GMT -8
Carlson is a stud. I watched the Caps a lot this year. Scores almost as much Burns, but can actually play defense. |
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Post by redbeard on Jun 1, 2020 17:42:58 GMT -8
I don't know Kane personally. I've never even met him. All I know is what I've seen and he hasn't exactly been a model citizen. Money seems to be an issue for him as well... There are several current shark teammates of his that have already grown tired of his act. Doesn't surprise me at all. That seems to be his MO. I don't believe the Sharks are a better team with him, certainly not at that price point. Not a great value is what I'm trying to say...🤷🏻‍♂️ |
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Post by John96 on Jun 1, 2020 20:27:03 GMT -8
I’d be more down on Kane if he didn’t provide almost exactly what he was brought to provide. He didn’t get neutered when he came here like many other physical players. He actually elevated that part of his game and his production was one of the very few that was up to par for the most part.
Whatever goes on behind the scenes, who knows what to make of it. I don’t expect everyone to be friends with everyone but as long as Kane doesn’t have the whole team against him, and it certainly appears he’s found some level of acceptance here.
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Post by Marbles on Jun 2, 2020 5:06:53 GMT -8
I’d be more down on Kane if he didn’t provide almost exactly what he was brought to provide. He didn’t get neutered when he came here like many other physical players. He actually elevated that part of his game and his production was one of the very few that was up to par for the most part. Whatever goes on behind the scenes, who knows what to make of it. I don’t expect everyone to be friends with everyone but as long as Kane doesn’t have the whole team against him, and it certainly appears he’s found some level of acceptance here. This. I'd be curious who is sick of him in the locker room. Couture just threw his hat behind him publicly and Jumbo has appeared on board from day 1. He also produced fairly normally in what was a shit fest of a season, not to mention he was one of the few driving any power play production. Kane is not the problem. I get he makes a larger salary, but he's playing closer to it than a number of other guys were last year (Jones, Burns, Karlsson). Also of interest, I hear Labanc has been coming down fairly anti protestor in social media. Shit output on the ice, possibly wanting to earn back on his discount last year, may actually be hitting some strife with Kane and those that support him. I drop Labanc if he doesn't accept something close to what he was earning last year. Kane? We are already 2 top 6 forwards down and we'd talk about offloading him? You'd damn well better do that only with a DW fleece job coming back with a top 3 and near prime aged player. |
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Post by cjelli on Jun 2, 2020 6:16:20 GMT -8
I’d be more down on Kane if he didn’t provide almost exactly what he was brought to provide. He didn’t get neutered when he came here like many other physical players. He actually elevated that part of his game and his production was one of the very few that was up to par for the most part. Whatever goes on behind the scenes, who knows what to make of it. I don’t expect everyone to be friends with everyone but as long as Kane doesn’t have the whole team against him, and it certainly appears he’s found some level of acceptance here. This. I'd be curious who is sick of him in the locker room. Couture just threw his hat behind him publicly and Jumbo has appeared on board from day 1. He also produced fairly normally in what was a shit fest of a season, not to mention he was one of the few driving any power play production. Kane is not the problem. I get he makes a larger salary, but he's playing closer to it than a number of other guys were last year (Jones, Burns, Karlsson). Also of interest, I hear Labanc has been coming down fairly anti protestor in social media. Shit output on the ice, possibly wanting to earn back on his discount last year, may actually be hitting some strife with Kane and those that support him. I drop Labanc if he doesn't accept something close to what he was earning last year. Kane? We are already 2 top 6 forwards down and we'd talk about offloading him? You'd damn well better do that only with a DW fleece job coming back with a top 3 and near prime aged player. I find it amusing how for the sake of bashing Whites the progressive community forgot that Evander Kane were a rapist that hasn't been convicted YET. Clearly blacks are higher in the hierarchy of the DNC than women. |
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Post by Marbles on Jun 2, 2020 9:16:32 GMT -8
This. I'd be curious who is sick of him in the locker room. Couture just threw his hat behind him publicly and Jumbo has appeared on board from day 1. He also produced fairly normally in what was a shit fest of a season, not to mention he was one of the few driving any power play production. Kane is not the problem. I get he makes a larger salary, but he's playing closer to it than a number of other guys were last year (Jones, Burns, Karlsson). Also of interest, I hear Labanc has been coming down fairly anti protestor in social media. Shit output on the ice, possibly wanting to earn back on his discount last year, may actually be hitting some strife with Kane and those that support him. I drop Labanc if he doesn't accept something close to what he was earning last year. Kane? We are already 2 top 6 forwards down and we'd talk about offloading him? You'd damn well better do that only with a DW fleece job coming back with a top 3 and near prime aged player. I find it amusing how for the sake of bashing Whites the progressive community forgot that Evander Kane were a rapist that hasn't been convicted YET. Clearly blacks are higher in the hierarchy of the DNC than women. I don't want to take this to the pit territory but what I find odd is that the sexual assault stuff follows one path of justification if it impacts members of one group vs. the other. I'd agree that this cuts both ways as both sides try to side step or use the issue as it suits. In this case these are equally important but separate issues. Both would benefit from Police reform as well, to be frank. Instead of sowing division it would be nice to actually see these problems of symptoms from deep seeded structural and cultural issues we face. |
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Post by cjelli on Jun 2, 2020 9:40:13 GMT -8
I find it amusing how for the sake of bashing Whites the progressive community forgot that Evander Kane were a rapist that hasn't been convicted YET. Clearly blacks are higher in the hierarchy of the DNC than women. I don't want to take this to the pit territory but what I find odd is that the sexual assault stuff follows one path of justification if it impacts members of one group vs. the other. I'd agree that this cuts both ways as both sides try to side step or use the issue as it suits. In this case these are equally important but separate issues. Both would benefit from Police reform as well, to be frank. Instead of sowing division it would be nice to actually see these problems of symptoms from deep seeded structural and cultural issues we face. I am not taking it to the pit, I am just stating that I've seen many "The Sharks are now dead to me for trading for/signing a rapist" from the SJWs once Kane was traded and extended.
The police reform is necessary. But blacks are hit more not because of the police being racist, but because blacks often have a lifestyle that gets them in the way of the police.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 2, 2020 14:03:01 GMT -8
HOCKEY
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Post by Marbles on Jun 2, 2020 15:08:52 GMT -8
I don't want to take this to the pit territory but what I find odd is that the sexual assault stuff follows one path of justification if it impacts members of one group vs. the other. I'd agree that this cuts both ways as both sides try to side step or use the issue as it suits. In this case these are equally important but separate issues. Both would benefit from Police reform as well, to be frank. Instead of sowing division it would be nice to actually see these problems of symptoms from deep seeded structural and cultural issues we face. I am not taking it to the pit, I am just stating that I've seen many "The Sharks are now dead to me for trading for/signing a rapist" from the SJWs once Kane was traded and extended.
The police reform is necessary. But blacks are hit more not because of the police being racist, but because blacks often have a lifestyle that gets them in the way of the police.
Like I said I won't go there, but I think that last statement is not accurate and certainly part of the issue in our current society. And its mostly perpetuated via a consistently slanted set of economic and social opportunities that hold communities down. |
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Post by cjelli on Jun 2, 2020 16:27:57 GMT -8
I am not taking it to the pit, I am just stating that I've seen many "The Sharks are now dead to me for trading for/signing a rapist" from the SJWs once Kane was traded and extended.
The police reform is necessary. But blacks are hit more not because of the police being racist, but because blacks often have a lifestyle that gets them in the way of the police.
Like I said I won't go there, but I think that last statement is not accurate and certainly part of the issue in our current society. And its mostly perpetuated via a consistently slanted set of economic and social opportunities that hold communities down. You're welcome to the PIT to discuss this chicken and egg problem where we seem to disagree which one is which. |
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Post by Marbles on Jun 2, 2020 17:00:05 GMT -8
Like I said I won't go there, but I think that last statement is not accurate and certainly part of the issue in our current society. And its mostly perpetuated via a consistently slanted set of economic and social opportunities that hold communities down. You're welcome to the PIT to discuss this chicken and egg problem where we seem to disagree which one is which. Not worth it. Agree to disagree. When the hell do these playoffs get going (so we can get truly to the offseason and make some line changes). |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jun 3, 2020 8:21:52 GMT -8
I’d be more down on Kane if he didn’t provide almost exactly what he was brought to provide. He didn’t get neutered when he came here like many other physical players. He actually elevated that part of his game and his production was one of the very few that was up to par for the most part. Whatever goes on behind the scenes, who knows what to make of it. I don’t expect everyone to be friends with everyone but as long as Kane doesn’t have the whole team against him, and it certainly appears he’s found some level of acceptance here. He was great on the ice. He did exactly what they brought him to do. I was referring to off ice issues as a Shark. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 4, 2020 13:17:26 GMT -8
Wow, Hockey news
NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today more details of its playoff format for the 2019-20 Return To Play Plan:
Series Lengths
The Qualifying Round will be composed of best-of-five series. All other rounds (First Round, Second Round, Conference Finals, Stanley Cup Final) will be best-of-seven series.
“Seeding” Format
In each succeeding round of the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs, the highest remaining seed in each conference will face the lowest remaining seed, the second-highest remaining seed in each conference will face the second-lowest remaining seed, etc.
Round Robin Tiebreaker
Ties in the Round Robin – featuring the top four teams from each conference – will be broken by regular season points percentage. The seeding order for these teams then will remain the same throughout the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
“Home” Ice
* In the Qualifying Round, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2 and 5. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3 and 4.
* In the First Round, Second Round and Conference Finals, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6.
* In the Stanley Cup Final, the team with the higher regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The team with the lower regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6.
Today’s announcement follows approval by the League’s Board of Governors and the National Hockey League Players’ Association. The agreement is subject to the NHL and the NHLPA reaching an overall agreement on resuming play.
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 4, 2020 15:13:37 GMT -8
Hey CJ, are we doing the playoff challenge this year? If so, will it include the qualifying round? Thanks in advance if you do decide to put it together.
Whats everyones favorite series in the qualification round? I like the Canes/Rangers matchup in the East and the Flames/Jets in the West. I’m picking Chicago to upset the Oils...
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Post by cjelli on Jun 4, 2020 15:40:30 GMT -8
Hey CJ, are we doing the playoff challenge this year? If so, will it include the qualifying round? Thanks in advance if you do decide to put it together. Whats everyones favorite series in the qualification round? I like the Canes/Rangers matchup in the East and the Flames/Jets in the West. I’m picking Chicago to upset the Oils... I am not sure we will if I get the move in-between... |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 4, 2020 15:50:16 GMT -8
Hey CJ, are we doing the playoff challenge this year? If so, will it include the qualifying round? Thanks in advance if you do decide to put it together. Whats everyones favorite series in the qualification round? I like the Canes/Rangers matchup in the East and the Flames/Jets in the West. I’m picking Chicago to upset the Oils... I am not sure we will if I get the move in-between... I hope the house goes through more than I hope for the playoff challenge...but I’m just learning that I have white privilege, so I expect both things to happen  |
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Post by cjelli on Jun 4, 2020 17:03:45 GMT -8
I am not sure we will if I get the move in-between... I hope the house goes through more than I hope for the playoff challenge...but I’m just learning that I have white privilege, so I expect both things to happen For the sake of privilege, I told my daughter, that if anyone ever asks her to acknowledge or check, she should say, that as a nationality that has suffered continuously for the last 2500 years from enslaving, murder, exile, chase, burning, ghettoing, forced conversion, pogroms, special laws, bombings, and faced a complete extermination in gas chambers less than eighty years ago, we refuse to acknowledge any privilege whatsoever.
And if after that we have 25% of Nobel and Abel prize laureates, than nobody can talk or imply any privilege whatsoever. To anyone
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 4, 2020 20:03:02 GMT -8
via Sportsnet's YouTube page,
David Amber is joined by NHL insiders Elliotte Friedman and Chris Johnston to break down what the NHL's playoff picture plus, the latest on the league's search for hub cities.
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Post by Fugazi on Jun 4, 2020 20:07:26 GMT -8
NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today that it will transition to Phase 2 of its Return To Play Plan effective Monday, June 8.
Beginning June 8 – subject to each Club’s satisfaction of all of the requirements set out in the Phase 2 Protocol – Clubs will be permitted to reopen their training facilities in their home city to allow players to participate in individualized training activities (off-ice and on-ice). Players will be participating on a voluntary basis and will be scheduled to small groups (i.e., a maximum of six Players at any one time, plus a limited number of Club staff). The various measures set out in the Phase 2 Protocol are intended to provide players with a safe and controlled environment in which to resume their conditioning. Phase 2 is not a substitute for training camp.
All necessary preparations for Phase 2, including those that require Player participation (education, diagnostic testing, scheduling for medicals, etc.), can begin immediately. The NHL and the NHLPA continue to negotiate over an agreement on the resumption of play.
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Post by Marbles on Jun 5, 2020 8:07:04 GMT -8
Wow, Hockey news NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today more details of its playoff format for the 2019-20 Return To Play Plan: Series Lengths The Qualifying Round will be composed of best-of-five series. All other rounds (First Round, Second Round, Conference Finals, Stanley Cup Final) will be best-of-seven series. “Seeding” Format In each succeeding round of the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs, the highest remaining seed in each conference will face the lowest remaining seed, the second-highest remaining seed in each conference will face the second-lowest remaining seed, etc. Round Robin Tiebreaker Ties in the Round Robin – featuring the top four teams from each conference – will be broken by regular season points percentage. The seeding order for these teams then will remain the same throughout the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs. “Home” Ice * In the Qualifying Round, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2 and 5. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3 and 4. * In the First Round, Second Round and Conference Finals, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. * In the Stanley Cup Final, the team with the higher regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The team with the lower regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. Today’s announcement follows approval by the League’s Board of Governors and the National Hockey League Players’ Association. The agreement is subject to the NHL and the NHLPA reaching an overall agreement on resuming play. A couple things. 1) when the fuck are we starting? I feel like we are going to have a finals in August at this rate, 1 month detox for the winning team and back to regular season. That's getting a bit concerning from a player health standpoint. 2) interesting they are reseeding between rounds. That seems like a pretty major change and I'm not sure why they are making that specifically given the weird situation. Maybe something they will carry forward? |
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Post by Marbles on Jun 5, 2020 8:09:16 GMT -8
NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today that it will transition to Phase 2 of its Return To Play Plan effective Monday, June 8. Beginning June 8 – subject to each Club’s satisfaction of all of the requirements set out in the Phase 2 Protocol – Clubs will be permitted to reopen their training facilities in their home city to allow players to participate in individualized training activities (off-ice and on-ice). Players will be participating on a voluntary basis and will be scheduled to small groups (i.e., a maximum of six Players at any one time, plus a limited number of Club staff). The various measures set out in the Phase 2 Protocol are intended to provide players with a safe and controlled environment in which to resume their conditioning. Phase 2 is not a substitute for training camp. All necessary preparations for Phase 2, including those that require Player participation (education, diagnostic testing, scheduling for medicals, etc.), can begin immediately. The NHL and the NHLPA continue to negotiate over an agreement on the resumption of play. They're going to have to deluose players coming on and off the ice for their shifts. Awesome. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 5, 2020 8:15:48 GMT -8
via Sportsnet's YouTube page, David Amber is joined by NHL insiders Elliotte Friedman and Chris Johnston to break down what the NHL's playoff picture plus, the latest on the league's search for hub cities. I hope Raleigh is one of the cities... |
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Post by John96 on Jun 5, 2020 8:17:45 GMT -8
Wow, Hockey news NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today more details of its playoff format for the 2019-20 Return To Play Plan: Series Lengths The Qualifying Round will be composed of best-of-five series. All other rounds (First Round, Second Round, Conference Finals, Stanley Cup Final) will be best-of-seven series. “Seeding” Format In each succeeding round of the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs, the highest remaining seed in each conference will face the lowest remaining seed, the second-highest remaining seed in each conference will face the second-lowest remaining seed, etc. Round Robin Tiebreaker Ties in the Round Robin – featuring the top four teams from each conference – will be broken by regular season points percentage. The seeding order for these teams then will remain the same throughout the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs. “Home” Ice * In the Qualifying Round, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2 and 5. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3 and 4. * In the First Round, Second Round and Conference Finals, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. * In the Stanley Cup Final, the team with the higher regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The team with the lower regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. Today’s announcement follows approval by the League’s Board of Governors and the National Hockey League Players’ Association. The agreement is subject to the NHL and the NHLPA reaching an overall agreement on resuming play. A couple things. 1) when the fuck are we starting? I feel like we are going to have a finals in August at this rate, 1 month detox for the winning team and back to regular season. That's getting a bit concerning from a player health standpoint. 2) interesting they are reseeding between rounds. That seems like a pretty major change and I'm not sure why they are making that specifically given the weird situation. Maybe something they will carry forward? Don’t know about 1 but seems like next season will start later than normal. As for 2 everything I’ve heard says that was the PA’s ask in negotiation. I like it. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 5, 2020 8:19:39 GMT -8
Wow, Hockey news NEW YORK (June 4, 2020) – The National Hockey League announced today more details of its playoff format for the 2019-20 Return To Play Plan: Series Lengths The Qualifying Round will be composed of best-of-five series. All other rounds (First Round, Second Round, Conference Finals, Stanley Cup Final) will be best-of-seven series. “Seeding” Format In each succeeding round of the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs, the highest remaining seed in each conference will face the lowest remaining seed, the second-highest remaining seed in each conference will face the second-lowest remaining seed, etc. Round Robin Tiebreaker Ties in the Round Robin – featuring the top four teams from each conference – will be broken by regular season points percentage. The seeding order for these teams then will remain the same throughout the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs. “Home” Ice * In the Qualifying Round, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2 and 5. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3 and 4. * In the First Round, Second Round and Conference Finals, the higher-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The lower-seeded team will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. * In the Stanley Cup Final, the team with the higher regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 1, 2, 5 and 7. The team with the lower regular season points percentage will be designated as the home team in Games 3, 4 and 6. Today’s announcement follows approval by the League’s Board of Governors and the National Hockey League Players’ Association. The agreement is subject to the NHL and the NHLPA reaching an overall agreement on resuming play. A couple things. 1) when the fuck are we starting? I feel like we are going to have a finals in August at this rate, 1 month detox for the winning team and back to regular season. That's getting a bit concerning from a player health standpoint. 2) interesting they are reseeding between rounds. That seems like a pretty major change and I'm not sure why they are making that specifically given the weird situation. Maybe something they will carry forward? I was thinking the SCF wouldn’t be until September. They’re not even starting until July and they have one five game series then four seven game series. I’m going to be curious to see the ice conditions in some cities in August. |
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Post by Marbles on Jun 5, 2020 8:26:21 GMT -8
A couple things. 1) when the fuck are we starting? I feel like we are going to have a finals in August at this rate, 1 month detox for the winning team and back to regular season. That's getting a bit concerning from a player health standpoint. 2) interesting they are reseeding between rounds. That seems like a pretty major change and I'm not sure why they are making that specifically given the weird situation. Maybe something they will carry forward? I was thinking the SCF wouldn’t be until September. They’re not even starting until July and they have one five game series then four seven game series. I’m going to be curious to see the ice conditions in some cities in August. That's what I mean. The teams will need I assume 2-4 weeks of training and practice to get back to speed. Then 5 series. I think September isn't out of the question and that is generally training camp and preseason time. I really get that it sucks to cancel a season. But at a certain point you have to wonder if we are now going to make abominations out of 2 seasons rather than cut loose and resume a normal routine in October. I may be highly biased as I want to hit FA and see how DW is going to screw the pooch this year. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jun 5, 2020 8:46:29 GMT -8
I was thinking the SCF wouldn’t be until September. They’re not even starting until July and they have one five game series then four seven game series. I’m going to be curious to see the ice conditions in some cities in August. That's what I mean. The teams will need I assume 2-4 weeks of training and practice to get back to speed. Then 5 series. I think September isn't out of the question and that is generally training camp and preseason time. I really get that it sucks to cancel a season. But at a certain point you have to wonder if we are now going to make abominations out of 2 seasons rather than cut loose and resume a normal routine in October. I may be highly biased as I want to hit FA and see how DW is going to screw the pooch this year. Agree. If they go with a full season next year, even if they start late, by the Spring of 2021 the players are going to be really banged up, tired, etc. |
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