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Post by Fugazi on Jul 23, 2020 14:45:45 GMT -8
Agreed... Unless he turns back into the stud of a few years ago then the decision could change. But after this long off season, there will be zero reasons for him not to return to form (fully healed). Now the question is does he come back a hero or a turd? On another note, I foresee the use of the Karen insult will be gold. Did Seattle overpay for a team like Vegas did? If so then the favoritism is going to be ridiculous again. So the proverbial "window" is win this next season or go into full rebuild. On paper it doesn't look good enough to make the playoffs let alone actually contend. It might just be a very long year. I just dont think you can have two very offensive minded D men on the same team. They both give up defensive responsibilities to push the offense sometimes in a reckless way. You just cant cover for both of them. One has to go. I could be Burns. He has no defense and he isn't getting any younger |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 23, 2020 14:46:47 GMT -8
On PTI today. The discussion about the Seattle Kraken name is golden. (I hope the video starts at the right time)
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Post by HOOCH2173 on Jul 23, 2020 14:54:52 GMT -8
Agreed... Unless he turns back into the stud of a few years ago then the decision could change. But after this long off season, there will be zero reasons for him not to return to form (fully healed). Now the question is does he come back a hero or a turd? On another note, I foresee the use of the Karen insult will be gold. Did Seattle overpay for a team like Vegas did? If so then the favoritism is going to be ridiculous again. So the proverbial "window" is win this next season or go into full rebuild. On paper it doesn't look good enough to make the playoffs let alone actually contend. It might just be a very long year. The other hurdle is that the new team must pay the 650 Million Dollar expansion fee before they become official to draft. So said some article I saw earlier this morning. |
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Post by sharkhaywood on Jul 23, 2020 15:42:31 GMT -8
Agreed... Unless he turns back into the stud of a few years ago then the decision could change. But after this long off season, there will be zero reasons for him not to return to form (fully healed). Now the question is does he come back a hero or a turd? On another note, I foresee the use of the Karen insult will be gold. Did Seattle overpay for a team like Vegas did? If so then the favoritism is going to be ridiculous again. So the proverbial "window" is win this next season or go into full rebuild. On paper it doesn't look good enough to make the playoffs let alone actually contend. It might just be a very long year. I just dont think you can have two very offensive minded D men on the same team. They both give up defensive responsibilities to push the offense sometimes in a reckless way. You just cant cover for both of them. One has to go. Having watched some of the classic Sharks games recently when Burns was a forward I say fuck it and move him back to a forward. |
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Post by cjelli on Jul 23, 2020 16:06:13 GMT -8
Agreed... Unless he turns back into the stud of a few years ago then the decision could change. But after this long off season, there will be zero reasons for him not to return to form (fully healed). Now the question is does he come back a hero or a turd? On another note, I foresee the use of the Karen insult will be gold. Did Seattle overpay for a team like Vegas did? If so then the favoritism is going to be ridiculous again. So the proverbial "window" is win this next season or go into full rebuild. On paper it doesn't look good enough to make the playoffs let alone actually contend. It might just be a very long year. I just dont think you can have two very offensive minded D men on the same team. They both give up defensive responsibilities to push the offense sometimes in a reckless way. You just cant cover for both of them. One has to go. You can, but you need to build the team around it. It means you attach a boom like a Vlasic in his prime to each of these D, first. And then you stuff your offense with tippers like Pavelski or streakers like Grabner.
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Post by Getzlaffedat on Jul 23, 2020 18:00:12 GMT -8
Fun trip down memory lane. I forgot Havlat did something that one time |
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Post by jackalope on Jul 23, 2020 18:10:18 GMT -8
I just dont think you can have two very offensive minded D men on the same team. They both give up defensive responsibilities to push the offense sometimes in a reckless way. You just cant cover for both of them. One has to go. Having watched some of the classic Sharks games recently when Burns was a forward I say fuck it and move him back to a forward. Dependent on if DW has any more magic hidden up his sleeves, this may be the reality and the forced move for this upcoming season. |
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Post by d5shark on Jul 23, 2020 19:02:31 GMT -8
On PTI today. The discussion about the Seattle Kraken name is golden. (I hope the video starts at the right time) That's what I told my coworker. If "Kraken" hadn't been in the list of possibilities for a while and they just dropped it on us, we'd all be like "WTF"? He disagreed though and tried to tell me it is one of the most famous things in mythology so he didn't think it would've been weird. I guess there's a reason I'm higher up on the chain than him... |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 23, 2020 19:57:59 GMT -8
On PTI today. The discussion about the Seattle Kraken name is golden. (I hope the video starts at the right time) That's what I told my coworker. If "Kraken" hadn't been in the list of possibilities for a while and they just dropped it on us, we'd all be like "WTF"? He disagreed though and tried to tell me it is one of the most famous things in mythology so he didn't think it would've been weird. I guess there's a reason I'm higher up on the chain than him... Kraken = legendary myth that dwells off the coast between Greenland and Norway. See what your coworker thinks of that |
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Post by John96 on Jul 24, 2020 7:46:31 GMT -8
Expansion draft is a nice fantasy for getting rid of bad contracts but Vegas pretty clearly showed Seattle that it isn’t the way you do it. Unless the performance more closes matches the contract why would Seattle take on Karlsson or Jones. So they can overspend for subpar play? Especially being in the division, why help a direct competitor.
I’m very fearful that Karlsson wrecked his ankle playing on it in the 2017 playoffs (valiant effort and he was MVP level). Now his calling card skating isn’t what it was and never will be. The elusiveness and agility isn’t there. The trade was a worthwhile gamble but if your Wilson, how can you not be sure that his health isn’t compromised before the extension?
I really hope it’s just been nagging injuries elsewhere but ever since I heard of the ankle issue it’s always stuck out to me watching him play.
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 24, 2020 7:57:23 GMT -8
Expansion draft is a nice fantasy for getting rid of bad contracts but Vegas pretty clearly showed Seattle that it isn’t the way you do it. Unless the performance more closes matches the contract why would Seattle take on Karlsson or Jones. So they can overspend for subpar play? Especially being in the division, why help a direct competitor. I’m very fearful that Karlsson wrecked his ankle playing on it in the 2017 playoffs (valiant effort and he was MVP level). Now his calling card skating isn’t what it was and never will be. The elusiveness and agility isn’t there. The trade was a worthwhile gamble but if your Wilson, how can you not be sure that his health isn’t compromised before the extension? I really hope it’s just been nagging injuries elsewhere but ever since I heard of the ankle issue it’s always stuck out to me watching him play. I agree obtaining him in the first place was a worthy gamble. But no way was the extension. |
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Post by jackalope on Jul 24, 2020 10:17:19 GMT -8
Expansion draft is a nice fantasy for getting rid of bad contracts but Vegas pretty clearly showed Seattle that it isn’t the way you do it. Unless the performance more closes matches the contract why would Seattle take on Karlsson or Jones. So they can overspend for subpar play? Especially being in the division, why help a direct competitor. I’m very fearful that Karlsson wrecked his ankle playing on it in the 2017 playoffs (valiant effort and he was MVP level). Now his calling card skating isn’t what it was and never will be. The elusiveness and agility isn’t there. The trade was a worthwhile gamble but if your Wilson, how can you not be sure that his health isn’t compromised before the extension? I really hope it’s just been nagging injuries elsewhere but ever since I heard of the ankle issue it’s always stuck out to me watching him play. I agree, between the ankle(s) and groin maybe this almost year off will get him back on track. Watching him, he had lost that "step" and only on a couple nights had that speed back. The extension baffled me though. I really hope for the sharks sake he is 100% now. Otherwise DW is going to have to give up at least another 1st rounder to Seattle to pick him lol. On a positive side, if both him and Burns have rebound years (EK has missed half the season last 2 years) that would put stability at one position. Then all that would need work is the forwards and goalie situations lmao |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 24, 2020 10:59:17 GMT -8
Expansion draft is a nice fantasy for getting rid of bad contracts but Vegas pretty clearly showed Seattle that it isn’t the way you do it. Unless the performance more closes matches the contract why would Seattle take on Karlsson or Jones. So they can overspend for subpar play? Especially being in the division, why help a direct competitor. I’m very fearful that Karlsson wrecked his ankle playing on it in the 2017 playoffs (valiant effort and he was MVP level). Now his calling card skating isn’t what it was and never will be. The elusiveness and agility isn’t there. The trade was a worthwhile gamble but if your Wilson, how can you not be sure that his health isn’t compromised before the extension? I really hope it’s just been nagging injuries elsewhere but ever since I heard of the ankle issue it’s always stuck out to me watching him play. I agree, between the ankle(s) and groin maybe this almost year off will get him back on track. Watching him, he had lost that "step" and only on a couple nights had that speed back. The extension baffled me though. I really hope for the sharks sake he is 100% now. Otherwise DW is going to have to give up at least another 1st rounder to Seattle to pick him lol. On a positive side, if both him and Burns have rebound years (EK has missed half the season last 2 years) that would put stability at one position. Then all that would need work is the forwards and goalie situations lmao So the Sharks just need: A goalie Defense Offense Yay! |
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Post by jackalope on Jul 24, 2020 13:02:09 GMT -8
I agree, between the ankle(s) and groin maybe this almost year off will get him back on track. Watching him, he had lost that "step" and only on a couple nights had that speed back. The extension baffled me though. I really hope for the sharks sake he is 100% now. Otherwise DW is going to have to give up at least another 1st rounder to Seattle to pick him lol. On a positive side, if both him and Burns have rebound years (EK has missed half the season last 2 years) that would put stability at one position. Then all that would need work is the forwards and goalie situations lmao So the Sharks just need: A goalie Defense Offense Yay! What? Easy day lol J/K More like a puzzle and finding the right pieces to fit (I guess literally every GM's job lol). If Jones holds the form he did that last few games before the pause, defense is shored up with bounce back performances by the top two paid D-men. The forward lines could be filled in with some outside talent and hopefully a couple of the Cuda can step in. I do really hope that Noesen wants to come back. It's a lot of moving parts that need to come together but could work out. Lets not forget though that all this is for nothing if the injury bug comes back this year. I think missing Hertl was the largest nail in the coffin that finished off the season. |
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 24, 2020 13:21:58 GMT -8
So the Sharks just need: A goalie Defense Offense Yay! What? Easy day lol J/K More like a puzzle and finding the right pieces to fit (I guess literally every GM's job lol). If Jones holds the form he did that last few games before the pause, defense is shored up with bounce back performances by the top two paid D-men. The forward lines could be filled in with some outside talent and hopefully a couple of the Cuda can step in. I do really hope that Noesen wants to come back. It's a lot of moving parts that need to come together but could work out. Lets not forget though that all this is for nothing if the injury bug comes back this year. I think missing Hertl was the largest nail in the coffin that finished off the season. The season was pretty much toast by the time Hertl went down. |
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Post by Marbles on Jul 24, 2020 14:24:02 GMT -8
What? Easy day lol J/K More like a puzzle and finding the right pieces to fit (I guess literally every GM's job lol). If Jones holds the form he did that last few games before the pause, defense is shored up with bounce back performances by the top two paid D-men. The forward lines could be filled in with some outside talent and hopefully a couple of the Cuda can step in. I do really hope that Noesen wants to come back. It's a lot of moving parts that need to come together but could work out. Lets not forget though that all this is for nothing if the injury bug comes back this year. I think missing Hertl was the largest nail in the coffin that finished off the season. The season was pretty much toast by the time Hertl went down. Couture + Hertl. The one two punch. |
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Post by carolinasharksfan on Jul 24, 2020 17:30:30 GMT -8
The season was pretty much toast by the time Hertl went down. Couture + Hertl. The one two punch. And the goalie not being able to stop the puck was a kick to the balls after those punches... |
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Post by John96 on Jul 25, 2020 5:30:28 GMT -8
Couture + Hertl. The one two punch. And the goalie not being able to stop the puck was a kick to the balls after those punches... Having a revolving door of prospects who couldn't stick the job that was being handed to them was a spit in the face, after the kick in the balls, after the punches. |
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Post by d5shark on Jul 25, 2020 6:29:19 GMT -8
One week until hockey is back!!
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Post by danvilleshark on Jul 25, 2020 9:40:07 GMT -8
One week until hockey is back!! Yay? |
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Post by sjsharks59 on Jul 25, 2020 13:53:01 GMT -8
now who do they draft from SJ? Rumor mills have said let Jones go or Burns go. Thoughts? Doug Wilson  |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 25, 2020 16:23:53 GMT -8
Goc I hope it was Hasso that inquired
It appears the relationship between John Chayka and the Arizona Coyotes fell apart over another job opportunity for the team’s current general manager.
According to multiple sources, at some point during the pandemic, the Coyotes were approached about Chayka’s availability and granted permission for him to explore the situation.
“It was not a lateral move,” one source said. “He was not going to be the GM of another NHL team.”
From what I understand, when it became apparent Chayka could leave, the Coyotes dug in and resisted. He has four years remaining on his contract, and, at least until this occurred, owner Alex Meruelo was a huge supporter of his GM. The two sides discussed the possibility of a “transition period” where the GM would stay through the remainder of Arizona’s season, but talks fell apart.
The Coyotes repeatedly have declined to comment. Craig Morgan, who runs the azcoyotesinsider.com website, tweeted Saturday that he asked a team spokesman if Chayka was still GM. Once again, the organization declined to discuss the situation.
Chayka is laying low, uninvolved in team business, not returning messages sent by anyone from agents to annoying reporters. He hasn’t attended practices, and sources indicate his office has been cleaned out. President and CEO Xavier Gutierrez, assistant GM Steve Sullivan and Alex Meruelo Jr., the owner’s son — listed as Strategic Advisor, Business and Hockey Operations — are handling much of the team’s business.
We’ll see where this goes from here.
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Post by cjelli on Jul 26, 2020 6:06:23 GMT -8
Goc I hope it was Hasso that inquired It appears the relationship between John Chayka and the Arizona Coyotes fell apart over another job opportunity for the team’s current general manager. According to multiple sources, at some point during the pandemic, the Coyotes were approached about Chayka’s availability and granted permission for him to explore the situation. “It was not a lateral move,” one source said. “He was not going to be the GM of another NHL team.” From what I understand, when it became apparent Chayka could leave, the Coyotes dug in and resisted. He has four years remaining on his contract, and, at least until this occurred, owner Alex Meruelo was a huge supporter of his GM. The two sides discussed the possibility of a “transition period” where the GM would stay through the remainder of Arizona’s season, but talks fell apart. The Coyotes repeatedly have declined to comment. Craig Morgan, who runs the azcoyotesinsider.com website, tweeted Saturday that he asked a team spokesman if Chayka was still GM. Once again, the organization declined to discuss the situation. Chayka is laying low, uninvolved in team business, not returning messages sent by anyone from agents to annoying reporters. He hasn’t attended practices, and sources indicate his office has been cleaned out. President and CEO Xavier Gutierrez, assistant GM Steve Sullivan and Alex Meruelo Jr., the owner’s son — listed as Strategic Advisor, Business and Hockey Operations — are handling much of the team’s business. We’ll see where this goes from here. You can put a computer to run a team instead of Chayka. |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 26, 2020 9:40:46 GMT -8
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 26, 2020 9:41:31 GMT -8
That moustache is glorious.
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Post by cjelli on Jul 26, 2020 13:13:07 GMT -8
Kaboom!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Sunday, July 26, 2020
GLENDALE, ARIZONA --- The Arizona Coyotes issued the following statement today regarding John Chayka.
"John Chayka has quit as the General Manager and President of Hockey Operations of the Arizona Coyotes.
"The Club is disappointed in his actions and his timing as the Coyotes prepare to enter the NHL's hub city of Edmonton, where the team will begin post-season play for the first time since 2012. Chayka has chosen to quit on a strong and competitive team, a dedicated staff, and the Arizona Coyotes fans, the greatest fans in the NHL.
"The Club is moving forward and has named Steve Sullivan as Interim General Manager. He has the full support of the entire organization including team ownership, executive leadership, players, and coaches.
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Post by cjelli on Jul 26, 2020 13:17:26 GMT -8
Kaboom! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Sunday, July 26, 2020
GLENDALE, ARIZONA --- The Arizona Coyotes issued the following statement today regarding John Chayka.
"John Chayka has quit as the General Manager and President of Hockey Operations of the Arizona Coyotes.
"The Club is disappointed in his actions and his timing as the Coyotes prepare to enter the NHL's hub city of Edmonton, where the team will begin post-season play for the first time since 2012. Chayka has chosen to quit on a strong and competitive team, a dedicated staff, and the Arizona Coyotes fans, the greatest fans in the NHL.
"The Club is moving forward and has named Steve Sullivan as Interim General Manager. He has the full support of the entire organization including team ownership, executive leadership, players, and coaches.
And this is actually pretty funny: |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 26, 2020 14:23:00 GMT -8
Kaboom! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Sunday, July 26, 2020
GLENDALE, ARIZONA --- The Arizona Coyotes issued the following statement today regarding John Chayka.
"John Chayka has quit as the General Manager and President of Hockey Operations of the Arizona Coyotes.
"The Club is disappointed in his actions and his timing as the Coyotes prepare to enter the NHL's hub city of Edmonton, where the team will begin post-season play for the first time since 2012. Chayka has chosen to quit on a strong and competitive team, a dedicated staff, and the Arizona Coyotes fans, the greatest fans in the NHL.
"The Club is moving forward and has named Steve Sullivan as Interim General Manager. He has the full support of the entire organization including team ownership, executive leadership, players, and coaches.
And this is actually pretty funny: That one team asked to interview him and the owner got his panties in a bunch over it. Fuck the Yotes And damn she's smokin hot  |
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Post by Fugazi on Jul 26, 2020 14:26:10 GMT -8
Dan Rusanowsky RIP, Eddie “The Entertainer” Shack, 83. He won 4 Stanley Cups with the Toronto Maple Leafs, including one in 1967 with my former Sharks radio broadcast partner Pete Stemkowski. Shack had some memorable moments against the California Golden Seals aka California Seals aka Oakland Seals, including this one against Gerry “Tex” Ehman.  |
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Post by cjelli on Jul 26, 2020 14:47:27 GMT -8
And this is actually pretty funny: That one team asked to interview him and the owner got his panties in a bunch over it. Fuck the Yotes And damn she's smokin hot She is. I saw her in person at Vancouver conference last year. |
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